Edvet
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Looks great!, some patience is required
Be sure to discus what fish you intend to get (not for a while yet)
Be sure to discus what fish you intend to get (not for a while yet)
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Our very first tank - the Fluval Edge 46 litre!
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Glenda Steel
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Thank you so much Allan! I'm feeling better about it today now I've started cleaning it up![DOUBLEPOST=1407933742][/DOUBLEPOST]
the shrimp I would dearly love Amano, but as you say we may be many months off yet! I have just tested the Nitrite for the first time and it's registering 5.0 ppm so I guess things are happening which is good news! For the moment I am happy to concentrate on making sure the plants are growing healthy and well and the tank is clean!
Thank you Edvert! I've been doing quite a lot of research and taken advice from forum members and with the size of the tank and our tap water chemistry - we have very hard water with a GH of just above 18 and a high ph of 8.2 - we are looking at a small shoal of Javanese Ricefish (Oryzias javanicus) or a small shoal of Danio erythromicronLooks great!, some patience is required
Be sure to discus what fish you intend to get (not for a while yet)
the shrimp I would dearly love Amano, but as you say we may be many months off yet! I have just tested the Nitrite for the first time and it's registering 5.0 ppm so I guess things are happening which is good news! For the moment I am happy to concentrate on making sure the plants are growing healthy and well and the tank is clean!
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Glenda Steel
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2 hours later - 50% water change completed, wood cleaned from algae as much as possible (although I was unable to remove all of it and have blobs of it now settled on the plants) glass is now cleaned, unfortunately in the process I managed to uproot around 3 plants which I have replanted but have broken off many leaves in doing so!! Is there a technique in planting that will make them stay in position?
The wood, which is around 10 separate pieces also collapsed, again pulling off many stem and leaves from the plants which were minimal to start with. All in all a difficult process and although the water is clearer and slightly fresher smelling the poor plants look very much worse for the ordeal! At the moment I am so grateful that there are no fish or shrimp in our tank as I really don't think I'm fit to keep them! I do most certainly now see the benefits of frequent water changes and a clean tank but I must find a method that doesn't destroy the plants nor frighten the livestock when we have them!
I am really struggling with syphoning as the opening on the Fluval Edge combined with the tall arrangement of our wood means that I can't move the syphon much without disturbing everything. Getting the syphon going is exhausting and completely hit and miss. Any tips would be most welcome, we have the Fluval Edge gravel vacuum/syphon.
The wood, which is around 10 separate pieces also collapsed, again pulling off many stem and leaves from the plants which were minimal to start with. All in all a difficult process and although the water is clearer and slightly fresher smelling the poor plants look very much worse for the ordeal! At the moment I am so grateful that there are no fish or shrimp in our tank as I really don't think I'm fit to keep them! I do most certainly now see the benefits of frequent water changes and a clean tank but I must find a method that doesn't destroy the plants nor frighten the livestock when we have them!
I am really struggling with syphoning as the opening on the Fluval Edge combined with the tall arrangement of our wood means that I can't move the syphon much without disturbing everything. Getting the syphon going is exhausting and completely hit and miss. Any tips would be most welcome, we have the Fluval Edge gravel vacuum/syphon.
Edvet
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You'll want long planting (or reptile feeding) tweezers, like these:http://www.ebay.com/itm/24-Huge-TWEEZERS-Snake-Reptile-HERP-Feeding-Tool-SS-/280474173752
Most aquatic are "slightly" overpriced. I use my old herp tweezers with no problem. Shorten roots, grab roots with tip of tweezer, insert in substrate, quite deep, then pull out a bit to straighten roots (in the sand, you won't see this)
Most aquatic are "slightly" overpriced. I use my old herp tweezers with no problem. Shorten roots, grab roots with tip of tweezer, insert in substrate, quite deep, then pull out a bit to straighten roots (in the sand, you won't see this)
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Glenda Steel
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Sadly I have them but find that as I try to "let go" of a plant once it's in position it pulls it out again!/?? I guess it's like everything - practise makes perfect!
Edvet
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Probably you'll need to put it deeper at first, force the tweezer open with the plant at depth, this way sand will close around the roots.
Andy Thurston
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Gently twist/wiggle the tweezers as you let go of the plant then pull the tweezers out slowly/carefully once they are fully open. Gently holding the plant with your other hand can help too. I find straight tweezers easier to plant with. It does take a little practice too
Fern
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It's a nice looking tank, but doesn't make for ease of maintenance!
I'm not sure that you would want to attempt this, but it is possible to take the top glass off. I'm also not sure if I can post a link as it is from another forum, but if you google 'Fluval edge taking off the top' it should give you the info.
I'm not sure that you would want to attempt this, but it is possible to take the top glass off. I'm also not sure if I can post a link as it is from another forum, but if you google 'Fluval edge taking off the top' it should give you the info.
Glenda Steel
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I will give the twist and wiggle ago, thanks Big Clown, unfortunately the Edge opening only allows for one hand at a time - even my small hands - I can't imagine how larger hands cope![DOUBLEPOST=1407946853][/DOUBLEPOST]
Thank you Fern but we love this tank and I'm determined to overcome my ineptitude and make this work!!!
Andy Thurston
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Sounds like you could do with an extra wrist in your arm for maintenance lol
I don't use a gravel vac in my planted tanks . I just use 8/12mm filter pipe fastened to a stick, like a vacuum, a few cm from the substrate and start the syphon the old fashioned way with a quick suck!
I don't use a gravel vac in my planted tanks . I just use 8/12mm filter pipe fastened to a stick, like a vacuum, a few cm from the substrate and start the syphon the old fashioned way with a quick suck!
Glenda Steel
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Oh my word Andy! Having just created the "Inner city drain" biotope (where a miniature shopping trolly and plastic bags and beer cans wouldn't look amiss) the thought of getting a mouth full of that water...??!!!!!!!! And I know I would! I just need to practise with some clean water first perhaps. Actually I'm now rather chuffed with the big clean up as despite the plants looking tattered and battered the tank looks and smells so much better! Should I be worried about brown spots on some leaves? I did search the forum and wondered if I had the lights on too much? Or perhaps it was the state of the tank or that it was a new tank? Head in a spin again!
Andy Thurston
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just keep changing the water and see how your plants settle in.
5-6 hours light should be good for a new tank
5-6 hours light should be good for a new tank
OllieNZ
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If you buy the cheap eBay siphons with the pump ball on the end, you can take the end off leaving you with a 1/2in diameter pipe and no water in your mouth. I've just shut down my edge as I was having similar problems with maintenance and couldn't clean the glass very well.
Edvet
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Come on Glenda, keeping aquaria means you got to suck up some tank water now and then. I've been doing it for 25 years and i've grown up to be a big boy
. I've been doing it for 25 years and i've grown up to be a big boy
Decent tweezers (fine points and light) are worth their weight in gold.
Tweezers should go into substrate at an angle and pulled out at and angle away from the plant, very few if and will lift like this assuming the substrate isn't too shallow
Tweezers should go into substrate at an angle and pulled out at and angle away from the plant, very few if and will lift like this assuming the substrate isn't too shallow
Glenda Steel
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But I don't want to grow up to be a big boy Edvet!!!![DOUBLEPOST=1408022100][/DOUBLEPOST]Come on Glenda, keeping aquaria means you got to suck up some tank water now and then
Great tips thanks Iain I will practise![DOUBLEPOST=1408022251][/DOUBLEPOST]Thank you all so much for such invaluable tips, I shall take them all (well nearly all Edvet!!) on board!Decent tweezers (fine points and light) are worth their weight in gold.
Tweezers should go into substrate at an angle and pulled out at and angle away from the plant, very few if and will lift like this assuming the substrate isn't too shallow
James O
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For quick, lazy water changes I use one of these http://www.charterhouse-aquatics.co.uk/eheim-compact-300-pump-150300-ltrhr-p-345.html
Attach a hose, drop into the tank, place other end of hose in bucket and switch on.....
Attach a hose, drop into the tank, place other end of hose in bucket and switch on.....
Glenda Steel
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Now that's more like it James!
Glenda Steel
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Another 50% water change and general tank clean today and things are looking up! Only one floating plant and the technique of putting the roots in the substrate at an angle really worked Iain! However the plants still look "burnt" and chewed (no snails I have checked), I have cut the lights on time down to 5 hours and increased the filter flow, is there anything else I should be doing? Any recommended forum posts I should read? 
