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I fully understand what you're saying Andre. Sure my London tap water is never constant in it's chemistry. Also, the idea of adding near half a tank of cold chlorinated water into a tank of wild Amazonian fish (green neons, checkerboards and ottos) use to give me some concern, but as I said...
Hi all. Bad news for me. Whilst performing a water change yesterday, filters off, hose straight from tap into the tank, dechlorinator poured in as the tank is filling up. Same as every week for the past 2 years of fish keeping. As it was filling up I noticed that one of my male checkerboard...
I have kept these. truly beautiful barbs. Not usually a shoaling species but I'm sure they only shoaled when scared. Once settled in they patrol the tank looking for food, or having a bit of a fight with eachother. Unlike tiger barbs, they are really peaceful with other fish if kept in a good...
I love the idea of a Shoal of Siamese algae eaters. Need a good amount to stop any aggression, but you have the space. Any sort of torpedo shape fish will work well here.
Not really a true ultimate shoaling fish... all tetras and rasboras shoal great!!!... for the first 2 weeks.
then, in a tank environment, each individual fish will go about their own business most of the time.
The best ive seen in tetras on a long term basis were rummies (GO RUMMIES)!! hehe and...
Not sure about using melafix. Doesnt it kill the filter bacteria?
Test the water parameters so you can get a clearer picture as to what may be wrong.
Check their poo to see if its white and stringy.
Also, perhaps go onto PFK forum. The discus forum there has some very clued up discus owners and...
In a bucket outside?!?!?!
Tough little blighter. Really nice fish.
Known for fin nipping but in my experience only when they go into a bit of a frenzy at feeding time.(like piranha!) :shock:
Just don't keep them with Betta's.
Grow pretty large for tetras.
They can be kept wit any other community species really, though they should be in a nice big shoal (atleast 10 I say)
as they can get a bit rough with each other.
Would be a lovely choice of large shoal for your tank.
Yeah don't beat yourself up about it Ray.
Just have to see what happens I guess. But I'm sure you'll be having to swap them (maybe about 15 :| ) for something a bit bigger.
Is a shame you didn't wait and put the neons in first, but from the look of your angels... I wouldn't have waited either. :D
Definite mistake, think you was warned about that Ray :wink:
The problem is, the angels are going to grow quicker than the neons..... so either emove the angels for a couple of months and allow the neons to grow. Then add the angels again. (personally I still dont think this will work)
Your...
Nothing wrong with 'gold' versions of tetra's. The overall winner of the AGA last year had 'gold' black neons in the tank. :)
I do think your gold neons are actually, probably gold cardinals... ever seen or heard of gold neons.
I would not keep any 2 different pairs of apisto's in any size tank. Once the males spot each other it could turn messy real quick.
The same with an apisto male and any other dwarf cichlid males in my experience Ray, they can be very aggressive.
I remember having my wild cacatoides male...
Cheers people.
Yeah I think getting a group of juveniles will be good, get a pair and give back the rest.
Don't plan on breeding them, just have a bit of peace in the tank. Couple of shoals of tetra and a few ottos.
Re: ember tetras and golden rams
Embers definitely and possibly even neons will get mullered by the angels once they start growing, especially since they're the first residents in the tank now.
I wouldn't keep 2 of any different species of cichlid in a 125ltr tank... I've tried it and it wasn't...
No chance of letting it get over stocked. I want this to be as easy as possible for him. I don't want to see it and start having to help him out every 5 minutes.... I've got my hands full with my tank :)
Well you need to take into account they have just been stressed, but it sounds fairly normal for larger fish.
Did you check your parameters before getting them? You have a high pH albeit compared to where you got them.
Probably just getting use to it.
Re: ember tetras and golden rams
Good call about their nerves. Thats what I'm thinking with my tank... just a massive shoal of embers.
Never thought about them with gold rams, but think the colours could work real well.
Good idea Ark :)
Re: ember tetras and golden rams
Could even go with more than that. Would look really good with even 30 or 40 embers. Could only have a pair of rams in a 125ltr tank. Guess the amount of embers will depend on what else you have or want.
Guess I should've named the thread "paired" angels. Not really bothered about brood care, he had angels before that ate eggs.
Could easily get 6 juveniles in their, then once i see a pair form, remove the rest into my tank till I get them back to the shop.
Just don't want them going at each...
Well If you've checked out my thread in the journals forum, you'll know the tankspecs
here it is
Its for my dad to keep and look after. He's from the old school of fishkeeping... oscars, angels, general community and even discus at one point. But he never knew of planting and waterchanging...
Only joking fella :)
Suppose fish are products of environment. But I've noticed that they can be trained pretty easily... maybenot roll over or anything, but sure with time and practice, we can all get to see our fish more.
Theres a natural affinity between rummies and cardinals, so neons I'm sure to rummies make a fine compromise to a cardinal. :) In the Rio Negro they are always seen together.
Maybe try some floating plants for a while, just until they recognize theres no real danger and shadows across the tank mean food :)
Also, fill in the patch behind the stem with more plants... just eliminate their hiding areas.
Severums eat plants and seem pretty clumsy for a planted tank.
Festivums are supposedly fine in planted tanks and very peaceful AND highly underrated in my opinion.
Think 50 of any tetra or rasbora would look stunning in a planted tank. Just personal preference really.
Guess it depends on the size of the fish, 50 embers would look impressive, but maybe 25 red phantoms might do the trick :?
50 tetras or 15 torpedo barbs... Different strokes for different...
Sure they just need to settle in, but are you sure your water parameters are ok?
Rummynose do need a very mature tank to show their best and a nice amount of flow.
If all is well then just wait. I've found them to be very smart too, for a tetra anyway. Mine recognize me like a cichlid would and...
Just get whatever takes your fancy mate. Then if and when you want to take a good shot of them shoaling around like sardines, just takes them out for a couple of days or you could even scare them(Personally don't like the sound of it) but thats what most of the pro's do.
The shoaling aspect...
They have usually been in a quarantine tank for a while, well fed and then plonked in the main tank with good water changes. They're fine and healthy, just unfamiliar with their surroundings.
Some people get lucky with a shoal and they zip about all time anyway. My cardinals did, even more so...
The scene we're all after is a 'shoal' of bright nice fish to complement our planting scapes.
You look at the nature aquaiums on forums or in the ADA competion and they have a tight shoal well placed in the tank.
The thing I've found out is most of the aquascapers have usually only just put...
Indeed it was. I've been on the look out for them for a while, but never wanted to order in because I wanted to see them in the flesh, so I've never known how much they are. Guess If I get enough of them I could get a discount :o
Near £10 each!!!!!!?? Where I've seen them at only one place in London and I can't seem to find them for mail order.
Anyone help?
Never find any nice pencils at the moment, just the usual 3 line I think.
Thats the ones! The only veil tailed ones I ever took a liking to.
Much prefer wild colouration angels, but there was something about those veil tails at St. Albans, bet they'd look stunning shoaling in a planted tank.
*Hints to Mark* :wink:
Its brilliant when seeing shoaling species spawn. Remember when my cardinals spawned when I used RO water for my discus, was a beautiful sight... think my discus liked it better though. :roll:
Would love to give it a proper go one day.
I know I know :)
Dont think you could ever get an honest to God true biotope. Unless you were rich. (imported sand) lol.
Just a little thing I have, feel like theres a reason why evolution or a series of environmental events have put certain fish together in nature... I like the idea of...
I couldn't. I have an aversion to putting fish from different continents together.. its a curse.
If South American, I even try and whittle it down to river, lake or even tributary.
I like to think, if i happen to have a wild caught fish (unlikely) then when he's in my tank, it's looking at...
Did have a pair of rams, and come to think of it, my tetras did shoal well when they were in.
Put them in another tank when they started uprooting my HC Cuba.
Maybe a pair of apistos will be better behaved.
Borrelli's with a big shoal of embers....
I do like embers. I have a 80cm long tank with an island. just worried that I might lose the embers in the back and never see them.
I love my rummynose but since adding extra lighting, they've lost the vibrancy to their heads.
What do you think is the best shoaling fish?
I've got cardinals and rummynose in my tank.
The rummynose shoal brilliantly once the room is dark and only the tank lights are on around 10 o'clock.
left and right across the glass all night.
The cardinals spend most of the time hiding, although a...
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