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There is no dispute about the quality of the fish, it was simply an ID thread and the fact that they were not what I wanted or paid for. After Paypal got involved they gave me a full refund

Well suprise suprise...requests were sent asking for a refund but two days later all my emails have been ignored. I made my payment through Paypal and have asked them to seek a refund. Now I am sure some of you will find their website very good and some of you will have had orders from them...

I have asked for a refund from http://www.directtropicals.co.uk/ We shall see!

No I think thats you on your own there :)

Thanks guy's....its just a shame the people at http://www.directtropicals.co.uk/ dont know what they are selling...I will have a read of the fish's info and see if I can keep them

Ok just to show the difference in the fish This is my otto This is the second batch which I need to identify

Well my guess is it is a catfish but its behaviour is definitely not that of an Otto....I will get a better photo when the lights come on, I dont want to go messing with my timers. I really want a possitve ID so I can say to http://directtropicals.co.uk/ what it is they are selling that is not...

I will put a better photo on later, but these are not attempting to go anywhere near the plants or glass, swiming with the Tetra's

Bought my second lot of Otto's from the internet, first lot arrived and are looking great and eating away. The second lot arrived looking nothing like the first batch....any idea what these are?

Always thought it was an inch of fish per litre....never used it myself as I dont like a crowded tank

notice a couple of suggestions for shrimp but wont the water temp of 28c be too high for them?