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This plant came from my mother's pond. It contains natives and mimulus luteus which self seeds all over the place. Any ideas? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

The common 'Fissidens' and riccardia can be found growing in the UK too :) Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I had a phase of chucking any moss I found in a tank. More grew than not but most looked like stringy moss Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

The orange is very obvious emersed but I imagine people complained about the red from tropica. Quite underwhelming Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Cool find :) Mine has taken around a year to grow back from a bare rhizome to a bare rhizome with some tiny shoots. Something not to its liking

Turns out mine is largely mush at the moment with a few new green shoots :(

Is that not 'green gnome' from dennerle looking at the way it's grown?

Mazus certainly looks to have potential if it grows well :) Trying to get some of the more obscure stuff now. I feel like I've done buce to death but I like the random mosses and other plants you get in the clumps. Always exciting :D Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

It's being called 'cf Beccarii' by a few sources but as you say, very different to Beccarii. Michael Lo has some images of the same plant online going partly submerged so I'm hopeful :) This one was tangled up in an aridarum sp which is the only reason it was collected (accidentally) Sent from...

And the classic borneo fern (n9j aquatic of course) Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

[/URL][/IMG] hopefully these[/URL][/IMG] work for you :) Also got the classic non aquatic 'borneo fern' unless you think otherwise?

Still no orchid but I do now own rhaphidophora cf. beccarii :D

I can do pictures at some point :) Doing a tmc 60 borneo biotope so they will be in that :)

One of my guys is reluctant to touch it. It's a perfectly legitimate export but a lot of orchids are protected where he is from so he normally leaves well alone. I'll grab an extra for you if anyone comes through. Got some cool ferns coming next week. Hopefully they travel well :)

Currently have a few people keeping an eye out for me so hopefully soon I'll have a couple :)

I really qant to try this plant but this is all I ever read about it. Maybe not one for me

Also check out Tom Barrs buce tank. He uses the same method

You would be surprised :) Been keeping bucephalandra a few years now mainly planted in substrate. They don't suffer like anubias would under the same care. In nature they can be found growing on dirt banks and they naturally accumulate a layer of soil in the roots and rhizome structures :) I've...

I've had monte carlo in the tank before that did well. Very slow as you would imagine but healthy and compact. I can increase light if needs be but I like slow and healthy growth. Easy to manage rather than weekly trims :)

Any recommendations for low light stems? Currently at 0.3 WPG over a 70cm depth. Cabomba and ludwigia repens are doing very well for me. Low tech of course.

I find planted in a rich substrate increases growth above all else. Access to the nutrients in the soil and the water column ;)

Borneo :P I will be trying a single one again but they aren't sure how it will travel as it's not the usual thing they send

Ive been sent one before but it didn't travel well due to a delay caused by paperwork errors :(

I've had success with other seeds (echinodorus, bucephalandra and eriocaulon) using a thin layer of a muji cotton pad on top of aquasoil. It's sold for vaping which is why I had I but it's great at wicking water and nutrients without getting saturated Might join you with the utricularias soon :)

I think I have what you are thinking. I'll stick up a photo on the 2nd when I'm home

Can I ask where you bought it? :♧

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Going to ha e to go check out the aquafleur plants in my lfs now :P

Most of the old leaves have rotted at the level of the rockwool but they are still producing these? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

My bolbitis difformis has gotten itself confused with java fern. It's take about a week for it to do this. It's chucking a out leaf plantlets java fern style at an alarming rate! Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I'm a little bit in love with this clump, thought you guys may like it :) Nice submerged colours on this one Personal favorite Can't wait to get these bad boys in :) Only one of 5 to survive the trip (just) I'll keep the post updated as and when I have anything worth sharing :) Sent...

This anubias is one of few that I feel would be much happier out of water. Mine throws out new leaves at just the right pace to keep up with the old leaf death which is seemingly unavoidable for some reason for me. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Was about to jump in and say I can source it but you beat me to it :) If you order it be sure to over order. It doesn't travel so well in my experience so it's best to order a lot in the hope some will survive (assuming this is from an indonesian source). Dennerle have it now but it's not on...

This is holding the variegated pattern but it seems different on each leaf Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I have needle if your looking :p

Another vote for trident. Don't know if it's placebo but it seems to grow quicker than normal java for me too Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I've just bought a reasonable collection of regular java fern cultivars. It's a shame no one has put much time into trying different sorts out. The supplier I showed is selling them at £5 each so might be worth a punt yet Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Thanks Mick, I know they are 2 different species but as I wasn't sure which I have it was the safer option to list both [emoji14] Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I also have usteriana/ aponogetifolia in the same tank and it's very different. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Has anyone ever toyed with other microsorum species in an aquarium? I don't mind being a guinea pig but if people have tried it would save some effort Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

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You may find all the submerged growth will hold that leaf pattern if it is variegated :)

I have a few that are very small too. Would almost suit a carpet in my tall tank :(

I have a larger but very similar looking one that's not doing to great. I'll let it mature a little and report back :) Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I'll pull a bit out and get a macro shot for you :) give me a minute and ill edit this post with some shots Excuse the colours. Rgb led doing weird things to my phone Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I've tried the same sp zozo and after a while I found that it looks like it's about to die then takes off again. I pulled it out when I pulled he plagiomnium out as it looked a little ropey. This is my current favorite native. Not a clue what it is but I believe it's a liverwort rather than a...

To elaborate on the importing side, phytosanitary certificates can be obtained from customs their side but aparantly it's the norm to have to bribe them.

Can't answer that one. I tried trimming it to force it to grow thicker but it just erupted more side shoots -.- Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

These images are byproducts of shrimp pictures but you'll get the idea. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

The submerged growth of this is disappointing to say the least Grows very long shoots with tiny leaves every 5mm or so. Grows better planted into the substrate contrary to most mosses

I've found it doesn't weep in softer low tds water but when I I'll it out and put it in tap water tanks the new growth weeps

It's likely amblystegium Serpens which I'm sure you can find in your garden ;)

I may be wrong but i think scapania undulata is only red under low nutrient conditions, as is common willow moss. If you grow it in preety much pure ro youll end up with red willow moss although youll have to keep swaping 2 lots around to keep it red.

My kind of post :) Best advice is go out and pick what you like the look of (responsiably) And prepare yourself for it to look completely different in a tank :P A lot of mosses growing in very dry environments also adapt extremely well.

I find mosses in general to be easier than ferns. In my shrimp tank with a very low tds and no ferts the mosses (and 'pellia') are taking over :) My pellia needs retying every 2 weeks With no co2 or ferts. My java fern is surviving but not thriving

Striny moss seems like a minefield to me. So many have very similar growth patterns submerged and i dont have a microscope :( Nonetheless, ill keep collecting and keep updating :) Thinking of traveling to hope valley for a gander and a day out.

Also, Amblystegia serpens (id to the best of my knowledge) is what I believe to be 'stringy moss'. Submerged growth is identicle to my eye

I was hoping youd comment dw :) Ive become somewhat of a geek recently. I spent my 4 days of scouring various environments for moss.... ill tryvand get a clearer picture tonight as its grown a little since I posted

I try growing the, away from livestock first to see if they will actually grow and make sure they wont mutate and eat my fish..... I can almost guarantee that your river will have some kind of moss or liverwort in or around it that you can try :) Found a fissidens species today. Also found a...

Riccardia is a native, a lot of people dont realise that you can scrape handfulls off river banks :)

2 of them are from the edge of a nature pond in my mums padock and one was from some woodland nearby.

Ptychochromis grandidi. Will look nice for a while but will not live long term :(

Id say add a bit of each and see how it goes :d

It could be that spraying the liquid co2 has damaged the leaves? Just a suggestion, someone in the know may be able to adivise on this better.

Marsilea would be my choice of low tech carpeting plant. You need the patients of a saint to achieve a carpet but it is very forgiving.

Why dont you try 'feathering' the moss? As in cutting from the top with a very slight angle on the scisors. It looks much more natural then a straight mow down too :)

Tropica sell acicularis so id doubt this is what you have. Id say either pavula or palastris are the likely options. If you can get a picture of the emersed growth up it may help identify it :)

Will post some up tommorrow :) Aparantly im not allowed to put pictures of moss on the internet on our only day off together :p Thanks Darrel. Would a sub £150 microscope be up to the challenge? I know that a more expensive model will be better but i cant spend £1000 on one

I have semi identified a couple Scapania sp. Plagomnium (undulatum?) Platyhypnidium riparoides (im suprised this isnt popular in out hobby already as it grows perfectly submerged in nature, i found it in a blackwater stream.) This is the best i could come up with based on apearence and...

Thanks for that, just bought one from amazon :) Just been looking into the legislation and as long as the plants are not protected and i have land owners consent its all good :) Also seen that 'milimeter moss' is a protected plant in the uk, this is passed around in our hobby and it is an...

Have you thought about trying them underwater? :)

Does anyone have the knowledge and facilities to identify native mosses and liverworts? Ive got into the odd hobby of traveling huge dstances and collecting natives. Im amazed at the quantity that do well submerged! Some are very interesting and notably different to what we already have in the...

Comment was tounge in cheek :)

If its grass you may be able to make a real lawn :p

Mine grows the same as this. If you trim the tall growth off every week you should see runners.

If its less than 2-3 weeks old I wouldnt worry :)

Could you post a picture? The clover shaped leaves will go brown and die and be replaced by smaller sumersed leaves.

Just a quick pointer. You have planted your java fern into your gravel, id recomend tying/ glueing it onto some hardscape (one of your coconut caves?) or wedging it in the holes of that nice wood you have :) otherwise the base of the plant will rot and the rest will die.

Your fertiliser regime is also lacking in nitrate and phosphate. I know you state that your nitrate reading is 20ppm but take that with a pinch of salt. The test kits we use in the hobby are very inacurate, more of an indicator that it is there than an accurate mesurement.

I dont think enough of us have the caviar wallets for those :)

Recon the last one is a peace lilly. Best to pot that one up too

mosses grow into nice thick cussions in fast moving water.

It likes fast flowing water, but can be found almost anywhere if you look hard :)

Huge ammounts of iron dosing? :D

I regularly collect plants from the wild (err, land owners permitting of course :roll:) Ive had hitch hikers, most end up lunch, but whatever doesnt adds to the ''eco system''.

I find this true if you majorly OD on liquid carbon, otherwise a large part of my collection will die.

I think almost any plant will survive at temperatures you can tolerate.

Any coldwater nasties arent likely to survive in tropical temperatures, and if everything in the tank is healthy, any ''pathogens'' wont affect them anyway.

Give them a light wash under water as already said. As long as they dont have anything obviously dangerous on them they should be fine. The thing to do with mosses from the uk is just to try it and see what happens, cant do any harm and you might end up with something nice and atractive :D Ive...

I wouldnt struggle with that problem, i like it when my rocks get over run, be it with moss or various kinds of algae :)

Ill pay good money if you can get some without bleeching it again :D

Same are as me and i am 90% sure its p crispus :)

Another vote for p crispus ;) If it doesnt grow, thro it outside in a bucket, it seems to love the lack of attention :roll:

No idea, but its just water with a high c02 concentration right? If so you could leave them in there for a while without any issues.

Re: another ID for native plant Wow, thats a lovely green colour :D Does anyone know how it copes with tropical temperatures?

Shame im building a moss wall too :lol: If my tank explodes ill keep you in mind :roll:

Reminds me of a straggly crypt sp, But a lot cheaper :lol:

Java, erect, tiwain and xmas should all be fine for a wall ;)

Vouch. When I went in they had a great selection of plants in stock, much healthier than other stores iv'e seen too (with the exception of crowland)