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Wow, always leaves me feeling inspired, but look at all that light he uses. If I had the budget and didn't care about the environment... Hang on, no I still couldn't come anywhere near.

I forgot to say. Yep I agree they are great for the planted set up. They don't pull any plants up or rip leaves. However they do eat a lot which leads to more water changes.

Thanks maximumbob, I don't know if you saw tis vid. I made this with all of the pictures that weren't good enough to be posted on another website I visit. [/url]

http://www.fishkeepingforum.co.uk/forum ... 7768#27768 The tank and loads of pics of my tank are on the fishkeepingforum.co.uk. You might have to register to see the pics. John who runs the website won't send you any junk mail so fear not. I will upload them on here at some point but I appear...

This was my first go at a planted tank. I'll make a vid of the new improved version and post it on for you.