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Pic of the one needed earlier in this thread. All else is indeed a no no.

well i usually go to the Beckton (A406/A13) one, due to its mahoosiveness, but Bow is prob closest, so will pop down there. I have one near work, so may pop down in my lunch one evening if my local lacks any too.

I have 1 bag, but need more, and my local Extra (massive store) is where I got it from hasnt had any for about 3-4 wks. Only got stacks of the clumping stuff. May try another store.

Problem I have is it needs to be inert. Want to maintain hard water ish. Akadema reduces ph from my understanding.

Does anyone or has bought cat litter from Tesco recently. Mine hasn't had any for weeks, wonder if its a discontinued line?

How big is the bog wood. TESCO are doing large clear containers 25l for a pair for £6 or something. They do a 45l one for £6 single. Would have thought that might be big enough?

A narrow pipe with its bending ability is apealing. Same time, something more custom might work better. The Dennerle is narrow and long The JBL has a mesh and covers more ground. I would need some lilly pipe to make an intake, and some mesh of some sort. Anyone got any they are will to send...

Its an option, but something long term, reliable, and solid. As metioned, if I had some pipes laying about would have given it a go, but dont. And look for a mesh size that allows debris to pass but stops gravel. For whats cost £10-13 Its just seems the aggro involved and cost better off...

I can see debris 1cm into the substrate. So I really need to ruffle the substrate to get things dis-lodged.

And suck up all my gravel? Molar clay is so light it will suck up faster then debris. Hence, the jbl has a mesh system leaving gravel. Sure I could DIY something. But by the time I have thought the bits and tools to make my own would have spent 10+ I would have thought.

Dennerle Nano Gravel Cleaner http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/fish/wate ... ing/184165 vs JBL AquaEx 10-35 Nano Gravel Cleaner http://www.swelluk.com/aquarium/cleanin ... 46642.html Anyone used either? I have one but its pretty big and would take out most water in like 15seconds in a nano. So...

Thanks guys. Tools will help the cleaning regime.

Thanks, think I need to vacuum my substrate, just I have molar clay, very light and think it will suck into any pipework, but sure I could get some mesh sorted.

One thing i see is recomendations to vacuum and clean subtrate, etc etc. when you have a lightweight subtrate heavily planted surely vacuming would disturb the plants and its roots and make a mess of the whole setup? What if you have a carpet? What if you have soil subtrate? My shrimp nano...

doh, double post, ignore

look into lowering your ph, I have found that London hard water is not soft enough, to have something raise that further would stress rasbora, etc as they are soft water fish.

Agree with Lancs. I washed it until it was crystall clear, then left for a few days to dry out, then washed it again, throughly, once dry, it would relase a little cloudiness on washing again. Did this daily, left to dry over night, for a week, and then left to soak for another week, washing...

so, by adding RO water in a water change, doesnt neccessarily lower TDS as the clay will release what it has collected? In layman terms?

Tesco CL 781, wow, thats huge.

Please, don't know If that makes a difference, but I did wash mine, and not seen constant rises in tds.

Dont get it, Tesco seems to be rising, whereas mine settled now for a month or two, seems to be on par with my tap water? Not rising either?

It's perfumed, so really needs a wash as not sure what effect that perfume has on the tds. Washed a few times, will help, and same time causing less cloudiness. Kill two with one.

Did you wash the cat litter? Awesome test by the way. Been going crazy with mine.

I think i will be using this. Was going to cap it, but reading through the posts, its just as good without, so wont bother I think.