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Are you adding any magnesium?

Should cover all the plants needs https://www.thenutrientcompany.com/product/tnc-plugs/

Hi Alex, tropica premium is just trace elements, better to use tropica specialised as it contains NPK as well, or a combination of them both on alternate days.

Profito contains no nitrogen or phosphate source, could be either of these ?

http://www.aquariumgardens.co.uk/tropica-specialised-fertiliser-300ml-1307-p.asp Use this instead of the tropica premium or you can dose them on alternate days

Fwiw I've always used boiled tap water it helps dissolve the salts quicker, never had any precipitation or clouding issues for the few years I've been using ei, Thames water so fairly hard.

Hi it's an all in one recipie from http://www.theplantedtank.co.uk/allinone.htm The tpn+ recipie number 3 without urea.

Macro micro solution for my high tech, DIY all in one solution for my low tech.

http://www.aquariumplantfood.co.uk/fertilisers/chelated-trace.html I use the same micro mix on my 180ltr, I dose 40ml 3x per week (rather be over than under dosing) never had an issue with livestock and been using apfuk's ferts for at least 3-4 years had the livestock for at least 3 years, how...

1/3rd of the recomended ei dose has worked well for my low techs, 25% water change weekly, but when I'm busy they do tend to go a week or 3 without a water change with no algae blooms etc etc.

Is that the old growth from when the plant was purchased ? Most of my stems shed the emersed leaves and they look like that. You can add a few pinches off k2so4 a couple of times a week see if it makes a difference.

Order a few packs of the salts that run out fastest, treat yourself to some nice glassware to qualify for free shipping with apfuk and save on postage, that's what I do ;) Oh and don't forget to use the 10% Off code for ukaps members :thumbup:

My ramshorns always end up this way in my co2 injected tanks.

If the Tds was 974 from the lfs it could just be deaths from shrimp already weakend from not so great conditions, IMO the lfs will generally point to ammonia in your tank so they don't have to replace the livestock, a drop of 700 odd Tds could likely finish off already poorly kept shrimp...

That would work fine.

My approach if doing daily water changes is to dose macro and micro on alternate days as normal but seven days a week instead of five, I generally carry out water changes twice weekly anyway and I've always dosed macro after waterchange and followed on from there. As for the untreated water...

I think it's a reaction with the phosphate and calcium nitrate, I stand to be corrected :-)

If you dose liquid carbon the tank technically becomes high tech(added carbon source) you may need larger water changes and dose according to instructions to keep the plants healthy. I dose my low techs 3 times macro 2 times trace weekly at third dose makes no odds to me as I feed fish and dose...

Mix it up as per instructions, then dose around a third of the amount of the full dose, works for my low techs with around 25% waterchange twice a week.

Are you dosing magnesium ?

Way too much light IMHO cut the photoperiod down to 5hours make sure co2 is optimum at lights on and if possible raise the light fixture 30-50 cm above the tank.

Hey Ryan, green contains NPK(macro) orange is trace(micro) you can does them on alternate days like Ei, you can also split the dose over the week like ei.

I like this one www.aquariumplantfood.co.uk/fertilisers/liquid-fertiliser/apfuk/apf-liquid-plant-nutrition.html

Well API States you need stress coat plus or chloramine can be converted to ammonia.

Worth noting Thames water may be adding chloramine as well as chlorine at the moment due to floods etc etc, are you using dechlorinator that neutralises both.

Ah yes, sorry getting my vit c powder and my citric acid confused, and I call myself a chef :lol:

Hi hoggie, it's a good recipie IMO, I've used it for a year or so on low techs and smaller tanks, it's quite heavy on the potassium nitrate, so I figured tweaking wouldn't hurt working ok so far in my tanks for a couple of months or so, I do use ro to make it though I noticed the mix turns brown...

I would assume you could replace potassium nitrate with magnesium nitrate in your macro recipie and work from there I've recently tweaked my diy tpn mix from James page splitting the potassium nitrate into 3 and using potassium magnesium and calcium nitrate to make up the weight for no other...

Hi hoggie, are you looking to tweak your macro solution ? You don't specify where you'll be adding traces from, quite a few diy recipes on James planted tank page which I'm sure you've seen are you looking for a lower nitrogen based fert or something else entirely ? :-)

Hi Karen quick google 20us gallons is around 75 liters, I would use the 20g dose and maybe carry out a 10-20% water change weekly.

Hi Dominic, ei starter kit from sponsor here has all you need Ei Starter Kit - Starter Kits - Dry Chemicals - Fertilisers

If your adding easycarbo you need as much macro as micro ime + large water changes! with easycarbo tank becomes high tech.

Nah, I still use magnesium sulphate most of my water hardness comes from calcium (London) I put it down to my teaspoon being bigger than Cegs and my water changes being smaller.

Liquid for me spent 6 months dosing dry and ended up with a tds of over a 1000 not surprised my rilli shrimp perished, not blaming the dry dosing method but if ya plants ain't using it they ain't using it.

Some people will find it a lot harder, just like weekly or twice weekly water changes, feeding fish has instant results they can be seen to eat it, also lfs still hung up on removing nitrogen phosphorus etc etc from tanks so adding daily would make them shudder, all branded ferts are aimed...

Lack of nitrogen can also produce red colouration I believe, will affect plant health long term though.

You can take days off depending on your lighting, I use this mix every other day on most of my low techs ( weekly on my shrimp tank) trial and error Claire :thumbup:

In that case a very affordable find then Ian :-)

Just found cheaper spoons in the draw in the kitchen :lol: sorry Ian couldn't resist ;-)

Potassium sorbate yeast and mould inhibitor available from here Potassium Sorbate More info here James' Planted Tank - All In One Solution

Dry trace mix isn't in solution so can't go mouldy :-) mix up small amounts if that's all you need, been mixing my own for nearly 2 years now never experienced mould yet. Hope this helps :-)

Soon as you add liquid carbon the tank becomes high tech so you'll need to dose accordingly and carry out regular large water changes. I have double dosed a tank with Vallis and it was fine, doesn't always work though.

Sometimes don't you wish you hadn't asked :lol:

Give it a couple of weeks, you may need to add magnesium to your dosing, after reading a couple of darrels threads most of the hard water in uk comes from calcium (I think) so could be a lack of magnesium.

May just be adjusting to the lack of carbon, your rooted plants could be using carbon available from the substrate, I would trim off all melting leaves and wait for re growth microsorums are normally fairly hardy so should adapt.

Last time I went away for a week I cut lights to 5 hours dialled back co2 a little, measured out macro micro salts into tubs and labeled them mon tue wed etc also measured out fish food into tubs and asked my eldest just to tip in on day required fairly foolproof :-)

It's daunting at first read mate, dose ei one less thing to worry about :-) gives you more time for maintenance.

To answer your question simply half of 10 is 5ml half of 50 ltr is your tank dose away my friend and stop giving yourself a headache :lol:

I use this James' Planted Tank - All In One Solution recipe 3 it's cheap to make covers high tech and low tech, salts can be purchased from apfuk or tnc forum sponsors.

Funny though, if you try to start a myth that too much light causes algae everyone ignores that myth straight away :lol:

Is there a reason for not doing the 50% water change ?

Yes mate, seems daunting at first, good stater kit though and simple instructions well worth it, one less thing to worry about IMO.

Yes :-)

good solution :)

how do you guys remember to eat breakfast ;)

Nothing is perfect mate don't worry about too much worry about too little :thumbup: it's ei it will never be perfect there are far too many other variables just add and worry about the important things co2 too much lighting and cleaning :thumbup:

I've only ever used teaspoons to make up my solutions grams too much messing about but yeah look good to me mate as long as all the other factors are spot on good maintainence should see you with a very nice scape :thumbup:

EI is designed to provide an excess dosing full amount won't cause problems insufficient co2 poor flow distribution and too much light will long as you have those sorted your onto a winner mate personally I would dose full amount that's a very nice tank :thumbup:

well from what i understand and ive been reading for a year mate and still baffled lol your ei lush mix should be sufficient at recommended dose as your not injecting co2 dont have silly amounts of light and certainly seem to keep up with your tank maintainence the phosphorous shouldnt be needed...

Hey mate what is your ei lush mix made up off

Got mine through one of our sponsors http://www.aquariumplantfood.co.uk/fert ... r-kit.html

Why not get your ei ferts and make your own nitrate phosphate mix until profito is used up will be cheaper mate sure someone could advise amounts to use

Because test kits are inaccurate profito IMO is one of those frets that works if your tap water has nitrates phosphates if not add them :shh:

that would be pretty cool ian just make sure you get flow co2 and ferts right or those rocks will be greener than your plants :lol:

+ 1 to that harry been reading for a year and found so many answers in clives posts without having to ask the question, as for the dog rocks my mate has one in his dogs water bowl completly covered in algae i may borrow it to feed my otto's :lol: oh and yes his lawn stil has brown patches

from what i gather moss should do ok without ferts liquid carbon etc you could chuck some elodea in to suck up excess nutrients during the break in period keep algae at bay darell has a thread on the dukweed index a method of determining if plants are lacking nutrients...