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125L Iwagumi. "New beginning"

Thanks Tim!
There was a suggestion earlier in this journal not to plant the tree and I had some doubts If I really need it
But decided to let it be and will see once it will be planted with moss. So far I like it and in case it will fail
in this scape by some reasons - it will be easy to move to beta tank where I'm sure it will look good (just in case)
 
Thank you!

..and another quick one..
Today planted the moss on the tree.. I know it's
a bit ugly for now but it should go quite bushy
in a couple of weeks

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Moved to my temp.tank
 
nahhhh.. I could not resist it any more!
After taken two advices (to flood in 4 weeks and to flood in 2 weeks)
I did choose the middle one (my own) to flood in 3 weeks even :crazy:
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I hope everything will go well! So far 1/3rd in and no floaters yet!
 
Thanks :)
At the moment I'm doing 100% water change. To avoid nutrient spike. So it will take few hours. I will do some better pics once the watter will settle down and the dirt gone. Possible tomorrow

erutangiS klatapaT
 
Looking very nice. I really hope the tree grows in nice I think it will look sweet!

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ok.. this is it.. 100% water change done 30min ago..
now will start the tricky part.. balance of elements
provided to the plants..

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any advice appreciated

Lights 34w x 1, 28w x 2
Lights ON for 8.5hrs
last 1.5hour only 1 34w bulb ON
1st hour 2x34 bulbs ON
Co2 around 4-5ppm (will see tomorrow what levels it will deliver)

Ned to start with EI..
 
To be honest it is true.. the tree plays a role in messing with perspective
this time it is not too successful. As now it is not in quite balance with the
scape and makes it a bit flat. but I still like the tree and I would like to get it
greener .. just give it a go and see how it goes.. in any time I can remove
it and start a new project in new tank (cube or something). I really hop it
will give a plenty spots for shrimps and fishes hiding when needed, this might
be the only practical reason to leave it it as this moss will grow very bushy

Thanks!
 
Ok. It's time for another update.
This story has its ups and downs. So I went step forward, to take 2 steps back. lol
More likely I flooded it too soon and was near to spoil everything. thanks to some
wise advices and re-assuring me I managed to save it and get over the issues experienced.
I hope someone being in similar problems (if) may find this post helpful in future..

So after filling the tank and running it with fresh filter and fresh media (70% fresh) the
nitrite spike stabbed me on my back - around 5.0ppm. Amonia was 1.0 ppm as for a first days and I accepted it as normal (it would go away
in few days without affecting the pants). On 2nd day noticed plants melting in few areas. On third
day melting was taking over more and on the 4th day I decided to drain the tank to save the plants.

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Once tank was drained it all did not look well at all..
Cuba turned from juicy green to yellowish in colour with areas melting
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..I can tell you only one thing - it was heartbreaking to see my plants in this way.

But we do learn from mistakes. It's always recommended to learn from the mistakes done by others, but this is not my case..

So - started the recovery process -
All lights ON for 13hrs per day
No spraying at all for 4 days, not a single drop
Once the melted parts dried OFF I pruned them carefully away
Once melting stopped started to maintain it as before the flooding
just with little changes (adding goodies to spray bottle)

In the mean time my JBL filter is cyckling in 25L tank. lol
1400L/h + eheim 2213 on 25L capacity sounds fancy enough
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Today is 10 days since drained..

Looks like I managed
to save my project. The worst is behind and now it looks much better as even before
the flooding (except some few areas of what's left over from damage).
So far of what I'm doing:
Lights:
Added additional 28w tube. So now I'm lighting this box up with 3x28w+1x34w for 12 hours
Around 6 hours it does deliver the full power available, 3hours 2 x 28w with higher K rate
in the morning and 3 hours of 1x34w+1x28w lover K rate before shutting down. Looks like
plants does not mind and only benefit from the amount of light delivered.
Spraying:
2 days with RO + Chelated Trace Elements
2 days with RO + Potassium Nitrate, Potassium Phosphate, Magnesium Sulphate

Cuba carpet is getting really tight in some places what looks really well.
As in background picture you can really notice how well thick it is now.
Two smaller pictures reflect the worst effected areas (that's what is left over
from melting)
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This is how it looks from top right now. Different areas of my project. The colour of Cuba
now is really juicy strong green! Glosso is stretching out over the stones.
I'm trying to form the runners on stones every 2-3 days and they are really stick to the rock. If it will
go well I will try to form it in a curtain over the big cave rock. This should look very nice especially
when glosso will be not floating but attached to the rock all over.
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I think it will take its time to fill some spots as you can see from a top-side view there are some spots
much slower growth (don't mind the big gap to the far side (in pic.) as this is the hole for tree to go back.
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And a face view..
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..as more I'm looking at the scape now as more I'm having a doubts about the tree..
I dunno if I would like to see it going back in th form and way it looks itself with moss..
but what I'm thinking of is just a tree with a very few branches, much less massive as the
one I have.. with no moss, but maybe some Bonsai Anubias.. or even without anything, just
a "dead" tree to add for the scape more rough feeling of loneliness..
But then I will need to change the project name.. lol
 
Good thinking and nice save of a critical situation :). Very useful info for others going down this path. Personally I like it better without the tree, but that is mainly a philosophical rather than an aesthetic judgement. I can see the idea of the cave (creates a bit of "mystery"), but for me it is a black hole that "eats" my attention. Otherwise I really like the balance and the lines of the layout.

Thomas
 
That's a great scape. Better without the tree, loving the cave. Mystery indeed :)
 
Hey Lauris,
I think your hardscape looks very strong indeed. I'm a fan.
I too particularly like the 'mystery' of the cave. I believe when the Glosso grows right in and is a wall if green, the cave will look even more impressive.

Well done mate, I'll be watching this to see how it grows in.
Cheers,
N
 
Hi everyone!
Just a quick update..
I'm liking this tree more and more. In my little set-up it starts to deliver results
expected. Branches with moss starting to fill out nicely and form very thick and bushy..
It may look much better in the scape when the moss will take over :)
month ago -
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today -
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treating with:
Micro and macro nutrients evry other day daily - 4ml per day
Easy carbo - 3ml daily
Light unit - table lamp 25w, 10hrs daily
Iwagumi still filling out nicely.. Cuba recovered, Glosso feels well.
The only reason I'm not flooding it yet - I'm waiting till the Glosso
will cover more of the stones. I do believe, once tank will be flooded
with my filtration delivered Glosso won't have a chance to attach to the rock
 
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