BE CAREFUL WHEN BUYING FROM THESE SHOPS

Nick16

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The following aquatic Online Retailers have gone into liquidation but unbelieveably they are still taking orders and your money
They quite often are advertising goods at a really good or should I say a fantastic price in comparision with other reputable sites that have been around for years.

Shops in the Group are as follows

http://www.1st4aquatics.com
http://www.thelivingseas.uk.com
http://www.thelivingseas.co.uk
http://www.biorb-aquariums.com
http://www.capital-aquatic.co.uk
http://www.aquarium-equipment.co.uk
http://www.fishbitz.co.uk
http://www.waterhomeaquatics.co.uk
http://www.aquatics-kingdom.co.uk
http://www.aquatics-kingdom.com
http://www.pond-tec.co.uk
http://www.everythingbutwater.co.uk
http://www.aquarium-superstore.co.uk
http://www.highpeakaquatics.co.uk
http://www.aquatics-direct.eu

Be warned before you part with your money.

i belive they are all part of the AQUAMAGIC INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
company.

i may be wrong but this is what i have heard. so be careful.
 

Mark Green

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Re: BECAREFUL WHEN BUYING FROM THESE SHOPS

Nick16,

Thanks the infomation on these guys, i was planning on getting a ex filter from one of them.

You just saved me £79

Good job :D

Mark
 

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Re: BECAREFUL WHEN BUYING FROM THESE SHOPS

looks like I was lucky, ordered from them this last weel :wideyed: was delivered too, hope no one does get ripped off :(
 

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Nick16 said:
WARNING
The following aquatic Online Retailers have gone into liquidation but unbelieveably they are still taking orders and your money
Sometimes a company goes into liquidation to protect their assets and not necessarily that they are bankrupt. Just protects the company from suppliers, otherwise they could go in and tear it apart to get the money they are owed.
 

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Hi Guys,firstly, i think you must be very carefull before you put thinks like this on the forum,secondly,i used the living seas last week for my koralia pump and the service was first class,no probs at all,reagrds john
 

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I don't see anything wrong here, John, as no one has posted anything libellous. Its just a warning over the listed shops current situation. As Paulo points out though, this could be nothing more than standard procedure to protect assets. I'd still be very cautious however.
 

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To add to my last post, in most cases, protection from libel, etc. on a forum can be covered by simply adding some text to the terms & conditions and/or privacy policy.

Something like: "Comments made on this forum are that of the Individual member, and not necessarily that of the site owner(s)"
 

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hence thats why i put i may be wrong. i would just be very careful. its just a warning to let you guys know. seeing as all those websites are owned by the aquamagic company
 

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JamesM said:
Something like: "Comments made on this forum are that of the Individual member, and not necessarily that of the site owner(s)"
I'm afraid that does not work legally to remove the responsibility of the site for the content on it - including posts. Responsibility still lies with the owners that nothing is posted that breaks the law. Or at least it does in theory.
 

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Indeed Ed, being backroom on a couple of sites - we constantly bring threads underground to discuss.

It does seem a lot of sites to be slinging mud at, especially when people are reporting no problems within the last week for orders and deliveries.
 

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if you want, i can remove the OP but, they are all owned by the same company so if aquamagic go into liquidation they all go.
 

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Dear Sirs

Reference : AquaMagic Tropical & Marine Ltd and AquaMagic International Ltd.

As of Thursday 26th February AquaMagic Limited took over all day to day activities from the above named companies. Within the group we had several companies, we took the decision that some of these were no longer needed.

As you could imagine the costs of running each was very high, all we have done is streamline the operation, all orders are being processed as per normal.

ANY suggestion that we are trading illegally is totally without foundation, all websites are operating TOTALLY AS NORMAL and will continue to do so.

If we wish to change company details that is surely our prerogative!

We note comments about our pricing.

Could it be that we are not as greedy as some, and are happy to make a smaller margin, could it also be that we will not be dictated to by cartel operations that are hell bent on fixing pricing, this you should realise is for your benifit as well as ours (take a look at certain product ranges that we sell and compare these prices with others)

Because of this you will now realise why we import some items from Europe, this is also part of the reason that we can sell at a cheaper price, likewise it also explains why from time to time there may be a slight delay in goods arriving with us.

Free Market trading within the Europien Union has been positivly encouraged for many years now, any products that we supply that have been sourced within the EU are covered by the full manifactors guarantee/warrenty. This is a full Europien warrenty that covers all member states within the EU, not a so called distributors warrenty in the Uk only.

We note comments from a competetor, these posts have all been saved and will be passed to our legal team first thing tommorow morning. Further more we also note comments from the competetor regarding wet products, we find this quite ammusing considering we have a town center retail operation since 1998.

Should this competetor find he is uncompetetive price wise on wet products we like to take this opportunity to offer him our services as a wholesale fish distributor. This is a new part of the business that is for trade only and will be available in the coming weeks.

As a gesture of goodwill we take this opportunity to offer any of our customers a 10% discount on any order placed between Monday 6th of April and Tuesday 14th April, orders would have to be placed by telephone, this will give you the assurance that we are here, you can ask any questions at the same time if you so wish. To get this discount you will need to ask for it at the time of ordering.

It is very sad when a rumour can start out of something that is totally taken out of all context, we hope by contacting you all like this that this will allay any fears that may have been unduly caused.

Regards
AquaMagic Ltd
 

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Re: BECAREFUL WHEN BUYING FROM THESE SHOPS

Thanks for the clarification guys. It is of course your prerogative to change company details but you can imagine how liquidation proceedings look in the current climate. We are just looking out for our members by sharing this information.

AquaMagic Limited said:
We note comments from a competetor, these posts have all been saved and will be passed to our legal team first thing tommorow morning. Further more we also note comments from the competetor regarding wet products, we find this quite ammusing considering we have a town center retail operation since 1998.
On this forum? I don't see any in this thread, have they been removed? You should also contact the moderators if you have any issues with posts/posters - especially ones you consider worthy of legal action.
 

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Egmel said:
Thanks for the clarification guys. It is of course your prerogative to change company details but you can imagine how liquidation proceedings look in the current climate. We are just looking out for our members by sharing this information.

AquaMagic Limited said:
We note comments from a competetor, these posts have all been saved and will be passed to our legal team first thing tommorow morning. Further more we also note comments from the competetor regarding wet products, we find this quite ammusing considering we have a town center retail operation since 1998.
On this forum? I don't see any in this thread, have they been removed? You should also contact the moderators if you have any issues with posts/posters - especially ones you consider worthy of legal action.
This is most likely a single article that has been posted on all forums that they find with some sort of reference to their company, does not necessarily mean we broke any rules here.
 

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LondonDragon said:
Egmel said:
Thanks for the clarification guys. It is of course your prerogative to change company details but you can imagine how liquidation proceedings look in the current climate. We are just looking out for our members by sharing this information.

AquaMagic Limited said:
We note comments from a competetor, these posts have all been saved and will be passed to our legal team first thing tommorow morning. Further more we also note comments from the competetor regarding wet products, we find this quite ammusing considering we have a town center retail operation since 1998.
On this forum? I don't see any in this thread, have they been removed? You should also contact the moderators if you have any issues with posts/posters - especially ones you consider worthy of legal action.
This is most likely a single article that has been posted on all forums that they find with some sort of reference to their company, does not necessarily mean we broke any rules here.
I did wonder, which is why I asked, mainly because the only 'competitors' currently on this site would be the sponsors and to say you're considering legal action suggests that they've done something wrong and currently I find that unsubstantiated and therefore unnecessarily threatening.
 

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Egmel said:
I did wonder, which is why I asked, mainly because the only 'competitors' currently on this site would be the sponsors and to say you're considering legal action suggests that they've done something wrong and currently I find that unsubstantiated and therefore unnecessarily threatening.
I wouldn't take much notice of it when it comes to the term "competitors" just a case of copy and paste.
 

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I wouldn't remove anything.

No one has done any wrong doing here, so any threats are empty.

As for rumours, I don't see any here either.

Therefore, I'd agree with Paulo, this is a cut n' paste job. And not very professional imo.
 
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