Biggest pleco for 200l?

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Hey!

I am planning to redo my tank later this year and was wandering what the biggest pleco I could get away with in a 200l would be? I have already ruled out the "common pleco" due to how big they are able to grow.

It will be housed with a few amano shrimp and 2 angelfish and some neon tetra's.
 

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Wouldn’t go any bigger than something like a hypancistrus, peckoltia or ancistrus. Remember plecos are extremely messy and require high oxygen levels so are sometimes not the best choice for a planted tank. Whiptails are often a better choice for that sort of set up.

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Wouldn’t go any bigger than something like a hypancistrus, peckoltia or ancistrus. Remember plecos are extremely messy and require high oxygen levels so are sometimes not the best choice for a planted tank. Whiptails are often a better choice for that sort of set up.

Cheers

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Thanks for the imput, in truth I am thinking about moving away from a heavily planted tank and going minimal mainly using floaters.

Probably sand substrate, a bunch of large pebbles and a big piece of wood, minimal light and floaters to help shade the tank when the light is on and to help remove bad stuff.
 
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Do you think the pleco will clean the tank? Or are you interested in the species.?
Very interested in the species, from what I have read I will be the one doing the cleaning

Also why I am willing to redo the tank to make a suitable home.

The blue phantom looks nice and the max size I have read about seems to fit with my tank size.
 

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Hi all,
I've kept a couple of different species, in some ways looks aren't that relevant because, when they are happy, you very rarely see them.

I think <"L128"> (or L200) are probably too big.
Very interested in the species, from what I have read I will be the one doing the cleaning
I'd try one of the Panaqolus sp. They are primarily wood eating so will make a bit of a mess, but they are fairly low maintenance after that (with the oxygen proviso @Edvet mentioned).

Have look at <"L169"> and <"L397">. You could keep a group and that would be more interesting.

cheers Darrel
 

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L128 will get too large for a 200l. I would stick to he other species suggested. I would say out of all the smaller species recommended you may be best with a peckoltia, ancistrus or panaque. Hypancistrus are beautiful but rarely seen in daylight. However given time all species should be visible when being fed.

Just make sure they have a lot of flow and oxygen. In the case of hypancistrus or something like an l134 make sure they are kept warm too. A lot of the smaller fancy plecos or from the xingu or tapas is which are extremely warm fast flowing rivers. Also let us know what species you go for as some have extremely different dietary requirements.

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L128 will get too large for a 200l. I would stick to he other species suggested. I would say out of all the smaller species recommended you may be best with a peckoltia, ancistrus or panaque. Hypancistrus are beautiful but rarely seen in daylight. However given time all species should be visible when being fed.

Just make sure they have a lot of flow and oxygen. In the case of hypancistrus or something like an l134 make sure they are kept warm too. A lot of the smaller fancy plecos or from the xingu or tapas is which are extremely warm fast flowing rivers. Also let us know what species you go for as some have extremely different dietary requirements.

Cheers

Conor
Will do, will not be for a month or 2 yet anyway, stripped the tank down to just the substrate today and did a big water change, gonna do another water change tomorrow and clean the glass etc, then another on wednesday and clean the filter out then go hardscape shopping and order the floaters.
 

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So, I have all the hardscape sorted and have made a very nice cave made from landscape rock and redmoor wood.

I was looking over the pleco's suggested and have ruled out the zebra plec, mainly due to the temp requirements compared to the fish I currently have.

I am toying with the idea of having a few plants but not many.

I am leaning towards the l397 as it seems to suit the tank conditions best.

If I was to get a group of these (provided the maidenhead near me has them in stock) how many would be suitable?

The cave is quite large with a fair bit of space.

Another question, would botanicals help out?
 
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So, I have all the hardscape sorted and have made a very nice cave made from landscape rock and redmoor wood.

I was looking over the pleco's suggested and have ruled out the zebra plec, mainly due to the temp requirements compared to the fish I currently have.

I am toying with the idea of having a few plants but not many.

I am leaning towards the l397 as it seems to suit the tank conditions best.

If I was to get a group of these (provided the maidenhead near me has them in stock) how many would be suitable?

The cave is quite large with a fair bit of space.

Another question, would botanicals help out?
Id say a group of four or five would be suitable. Make sure you have lots of driftwood as these are panaques and feed on wood. Nothing too hard though like Mopani! As for caves google pleco caves, plecos like long narrow tube like caves shut off at one end. Should be easy enough to order from ebay. Also if you do get the l397 make sure they have plenty of veg, these aren’t carnivores like the hypancistrus and could get bloat if fed too much meaty stuff.

Good luck!

Cheers, conor
 

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Id say a group of four or five would be suitable. Make sure you have lots of driftwood as these are panaques and feed on wood. Nothing too hard though like Mopani! As for caves google pleco caves, plecos like long narrow tube like caves shut off at one end. Should be easy enough to order from ebay. Also if you do get the l397 make sure they have plenty of veg, these aren’t carnivores like the hypancistrus and could get bloat if fed too much meaty stuff.

Good luck!

Cheers, conor
Well the cave is quite long, the whole ceiling of the cave is made from redmoor wood, there is a small gap at the back of the cave but could easily block that with a small piece of rock if need be, the entrance is facing the exact point that the current bounces off the front bottom corner and moves across the tank too so the cave has nice flow through it, will try and get a picture later.

In terms of food, am likely going to stock up on half a cucumber a week and suppliment with wafers. in terms of feeding cucumber do you just drop a slice in with an anchor?
 

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Well the cave is quite long, the whole ceiling of the cave is made from redmoor wood, there is a small gap at the back of the cave but could easily block that with a small piece of rock if need be, the entrance is facing the exact point that the current bounces off the front bottom corner and moves across the tank too so the cave has nice flow through it, will try and get a picture later.

In terms of food, am likely going to stock up on half a cucumber a week and suppliment with wafers. in terms of feeding cucumber do you just drop a slice in with an anchor?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/b/Pleco-Cave/66789/bn_7023491774
These are more like the thing you’ll need, more of a tube than a cave but these are what