Breeding shrimp?

[WiggyH]

Hello All.
Just want to sort out my confusion and surprise about new arrivals in my tank.
I have had a new layout running since Early December. Since set up, I added to my current stock with 4 Cherry shrimp and 3 Ottos.
One of the Cherry Shrimp appeared to be a female carrying eggs, which was a potential bonus.
Existing stock includes 4 Cardinals, 4 Amano Shrimp and 2 Bamboo shrimp.
So, onto my question for you clever people.
Whilst doing a routine water change and clean up I noticed a number of tiny shrimp doing their bit. 4 at best count so far. Initially I thought they must be the offspring from the Cherry as she no longer appears to be carrying but...
They appear to be a bit big for very young shrimp, and crucially they are not red!
I then jumped to a conclusion that they may be either Amano or Bamboo babies.
However on doing a bit of googling, it appears that Amano and Bamboos are difficult to breed. One website used the term 'near impossible' to breed.
There is much reference to them only breeding in Brackish water, and would be unlikely to survive if fish and other shrimp are present.
I should make it clear that I am far from a competent fish keeper, or aquascaper. I have a relatively standard set up, with C02 injection, Biomaster filtration, Fluval Plant lighting in a 64 litre set up.
Please can anybody ID these babies. Sorry if the images are not the best, but the buggers are tiny. At a guess 6-8mm at the moment.
Anybody had success with either Amano or Bamboo shrimp breeding with no intervention, or specialised care or conditions.
Am I being stupid, and Cherry shrimp start off this colour, then turn Red.
Any help is great. They all seem happy and have not been bothered by any of the fish, other shrimp or the snails.
First image is general tank layout, second and third show 2 of the babies on very young Crypt Parva.

 

[hypnogogia]

They’ll be cherries and will colour up as they mature.

 

[MichaelJ]

Hi @WiggyH,

What @hypnogogia said above. Definitely Cherries...Bamboo and Amano larvae needs brackish water shortly after hatching in order survive and grow. Neither are impossible to breed, but it takes a lot of commitment and expertise to get going.

Congrats on the Cherry babies they are so fun to watch!

Cheers,
Michael

 

[WiggyH]

Thanks guys. Cherries were what I was expecting, and wanting, so a good result.

 

[WiggyH]

Hello invert experts.
Following on from my previous entries. I thought I would post an update 2 weeks on.
I'm now further confused.
We appear to have a second set of baby shrimps.
The second set are tiny, and are clearly red, so I'm happy they are baby cherries.
The first set are maturing nicely and are of the appearance of the adult Amano shrimps (+ they also appear to feed in the same manner I.e foraging, rather than a filter feeder as per the bamboo shrimp).
As I indicated in my first post. I have had no active involvement in the breeding of the shrimp or their care. Nature has just taken its course. I just have a normal tank, normal water, regular water changes etc.
Please have a look at the images and advise me what you think they are.
The first image shows an adult cherry, one of the babies, but then the originally discussed baby entering from the right. Definitely not the same, Definitely not red, and almost the same size as the adult cherry.
Second image shows other new babies on the moss. Third and fourth show the original babies discussed.
What ever they are, I'm happy. Anything to assist with tank cleaning. They must just be happy with the environment.
Cheers for any knowledge.

 

[veerserif]

Congratulations on your second set of shrimp babies! To me, the "original set" of babies that don't look red have the appearance of a wild-type cherry shrimp. Neocaridina shrimp in the wild are a dull brown-tan sort of colour with spots of pigment. Have a look at the image below, which came from a product listing for "wild-type" cull Neocaridinas.

 

[rdk1402]

Hi,

Shrimplets are miniature versions of adults. This includes color too. Bloody marry shrimplets look like bloody marry adults, but tinier. Orange rilli shrimplets look like orange rille adults, but tinier. As females grow older, their color might intensify somewhat, and some strains develop a racing stripe later in their life span and develop dull patches.

So the brown ones in your first post, might be neocaridina's, but would not be qualified as any of the cherry morphs. Most likely, they are crosses from different color morphs, that resemble wildtypes.

The last picture of your last post, I doubt that's an Amano; looks tangerine / tiger-ish to me.