CO2 Kit for My OSAKA 320

Discussion in 'Carbon Dioxide (CO2)' started by browning IRL, 27 Dec 2008.

  1. browning IRL

    browning IRL Member

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    Looking for direction for my OSAKA 320 on the most straight forward pressurised CO2 Kit with Solenoid or if not with one can you please recommend a solenoid to purchase. Do want to get into messing around with FE. Safe, reliable, does the job and not costing the earth. Not asking for much am I ?
     
  2. aaronnorth

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    The trouble you will have is finding a large enough CO2 cannister (preferably 2kg) that wont cost you an arm and a leg. A 2kg FE costs around £25 whereas a JBL 2kg could cost you around £70!
     
  3. Mark Evans

    Mark Evans Expert

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    and the rest... a 500gm cost 70.

    just buy a FE of ebay. £18 then just get it refilled. i got 2 FE's and 2 jbl 500g running 2 at a time and 2 for when 1 runs out...so i NEVER get caught out ;)
     
  4. browning IRL

    browning IRL Member

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    Thanks Guys. Quick question on the solenoid ? Is turning the CO2 Flow off at the regulator a realistic alternative to having a solenoid fitted ??
     
  5. Simon D

    Simon D Member

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    Switching the flow on/off is the same as having a solenoid do this for you. The only problem is are you going to be there to do this one hour before lights on/off every day? This is why most prefer the solenoid approach.

    Some just leave the CO2 on 24/7. I would highly recommend the investment in a solinoid if you can. Better for the fauna and saves CO2. Depending on your setup you could save money in the long run (against the 24/7 CO2 injection).

    Hope this helps!
     
  6. zed

    zed Member

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    I personally wouldn't want to turn the reg on and off each day to avoid wear on the parts/seals of the reg. If you really want to avoid getting a solenoid, you could put an in-line valve on the CO2 hose. This would essentially act as a solenoid, as a solenoid is just an electronic valve.

    I've been using a Lunapet reg and solenoid on a fire extinguisher for the last couple of weeks and they have been spot on; easy to adjust the flow rate.
     
  7. browning IRL

    browning IRL Member

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    Thanks Zed, Do you have a link for where I could get my hands on the Lunapet gear you bought. Anything thing I need to look out for as I plan to use a 2kg FE.
     
  8. zed

    zed Member

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    I bought my gear from this place http://lunapet.de

    They also sell via ebay: http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Aquarianerversand

    Lunapet is quite popular on this forum and others, and gets good feedback. This is the equipment used in the following guide: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=266

    I got this regulator: http://www.lunapet.de/co2doppelmanomete ... c8bb5746e0

    Solenoid: http://www.lunapet.de/co2-magnetventil- ... c8bb5746e0

    Bubble counter: http://www.lunapet.de/co2blasenzähler-p-79.html?osCsid=ec60e38f78795de7692ab3c8bb5746e0

    Hose: http://www.lunapet.de/co2schlauch-20-m- ... c8bb5746e0

    2 x Check valves: http://www.lunapet.de/co2rückschlagventil-p-84.html?osCsid=ec60e38f78795de7692ab3c8bb5746e0

    You need to decide how you want to diffuse the CO2 into the tank ( i.e. glass diffuser in the tank or external reactor)

    Using an FE is pretty straight forward with this set up - no need for any adaptors.

    Hope that helps. If you have any further questions don't hesitate to ask. Off to bed now so will check in the morning ;)
     
  9. browning IRL

    browning IRL Member

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    Hi Zed, Thanks for that. Is there anything else I will need. I managed to navigate the Lunapets website using my Irish understanding of the German Language I managed to order solednoid, regulator, check Valve, piping and bubble counter.
    With regard to diffusion , which type do you recommend or do you use ? What are the pros and cons of each type ? Is there any other gear I will need eg needle valves whatever they are ? The prices on Lunapet were good in comparison to what I have seen elsewhere.
     
  10. zed

    zed Member

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    My GCSE German is long-forgotten, so I just used Google translate ;)

    The Lunapet regulator I linked to comes supplied with a needle-valve, so you won't need to order one.
    The needle valve is attached to the regulator and provides us with a stream of bubbled co2 from our supply.


    I'm just learning the game and don't have enough experience of the internal diffuser v external reactor choice to give advice, but I did my research before obtaining my hardware, and I ordered one of these Rhinox 5000 diffusers, for my 350 litre tank) from Aquaticmagic: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rhinox-5000-Glass ... m153.l1262

    ...however, I decided to go down the external reactor route to simply minimise the equipment in the tank.

    You can see the external reactors (reacktoren) on the lunapet website http://www.lunapet.de/co2aktivaussenrea ... p-147.html but decided to build my own. There are a few pics on this thread: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3871

    I don't regret getting the Rhinox 5000 as it will act as a reserve/back-up, just in case I have a problem with my external reactor.

    You'll also need a drop-checker. Have a read of this really good article http://www.ukaps.org/higher-tech-tank.htm

    Again, I got my drop-checker from Aquaticmagic, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Chameleon-Drop-Ch ... m153.l1262

    ......... and 4 dkh solution from aquaessentials: http://www.aquaessentials.co.uk/index.p ... ts_id=1977

    That's all I can think of in terms of CO2 hardware, but speaking as a newcomer to the 'high-tech' part of the hobby, I would recommend you read the excellent articles here http://www.ukaps.org/articles.htm

    Don't worry if you don't take all the info in after the first read. I had to read each one a couple of times to get the concepts right in my head.

    Hope this helps, and let me know if you want any clarification.
     

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