Cycling with Increase in water volume (new tank)

Discussion in 'Water Chemistry' started by Tucker90, 14 Jun 2019.

  1. Tucker90

    Tucker90 Member

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    Looking for some advice! Not sure this is the right place but;

    Going from a 17L to 50L using same substrate, hard scape, plants filter, and media.

    Will the tank be cycled with this increase in water or will I have to quarantine livestock and cycle the tank?



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  2. Jayefc1

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    I'm not sure but I would imagine it depends on the size of your filter the fish bio load isn't increasing straight away just the amount of water passing through the filter
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    Jay
     
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  3. alto

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    Substrate??? If Amazonia you can expect some ammonia release so just go back to daily water changes for a week or so

    Otherwise all should be fine

    Filipe Oliveira just did a video on a tank rescape that has some great tips
     
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  4. Tucker90

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    Brilliant video!

    Substrate is tropica so still a chance of it leaching ammonia!

    The filter is a 450lph HOB filter with two sponges and a lid of K1

    The bio load is nothing, 4 shrimp, 4 danio margaritatus!



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  5. Jayefc1

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    Yes but no where near as bad as Ada and didn't you say it was the same substrate so all ammonia should have gone already
     
  6. Tucker90

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    I’ll be adding more because the tanks larger, but still using the old stuff as well!


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  7. Jayefc1

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    You should be ok I did a whole escape with tropica soil and the fish went straight back in
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    Jay
     
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  8. Tucker90

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    Thanks mate! Will let you know how it goes!


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  9. Jayefc1

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    Ok good luck mate

    Jay
     
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  10. alto

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    I’ve never had measurable ammonia after scaping with Tropica Aquarium soil (note I tend to use the Powder only)
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    I do always have some filter media from previous/other scapes in filter

    Previously when I also added Growth Substrate (1-2cm layer beneath Soil), Seachem Alert only detected very slight ammonia (again filter with some used media) - as I’d quickly setup the tank for Chocolate Gourami’s, I did water changes whenever the Alert displayed any ammonia (as I recall, 3 the first week, then no ammonia detected)

    Tropica Growth Substrate - local shop observed some ammonia
    Shop set up tank trio with ADA Amazonia, Tropica Aquarium Soil, Tropica Growth Substrate and monitored ammonia daily for 4-6 weeks, sorry I don’t have the details
     
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  11. Tucker90

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    Interesting! I have both powder and soil I plan on using as I bought the soil by accident!

    I’m sure it’ll be ok! The bioload is very small and I will just carry out 20% water changes every day! Until I’m comfortable in the knowledge that it is cycled!


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