Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500 vs TetraTec EX1200

Discussion in 'Filters, Filtration and Pumps' started by Superman, 14 May 2008.

  1. Superman

    Superman Member

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    Ladies & Gentlemen...

    About time I invested in an external filter and have two that I'm interested in...

    JBL CristalProfi EL500
    After this month's PFK good gear guide this looks good getting all the filter material.
    Pros: It has all the filter media with it, nice pipework :rolleyes:
    Cons: No heater

    Eheim 2324
    Everyone seems to have an Eheim so can't be bad
    Pros: Trusted make, loads of people have them, internal heater (big plus tbh)
    Cons: No filter media

    I would appreciate any views on either of these.
    In addition, I would need to steer/pointers on the media I'd need for the Eheim.

    I'm looking to order tonight so would appreciate a speedy reply.
     
  2. Dan Crawford

    Dan Crawford Founder Staff Member

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    Re: External Filter: Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500

    Hi mate, i've had both and the Eheim is the winner IMO, it just "works" if you know what i mean and spares are readily available should you ever need them. Mine is packed full of ceramic rings, tetra bioballs and filter floss that i change and discard regularly.
    HTH
     
  3. Superman

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    Re: External Filter: Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500

    Thanks Dan. I was always on the side of the Eheim.

    Looking at AE, they do a set of filter media for the 2324...
    http://www.aquaessentials.co.uk/index.p ... cts_id=749" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
    Is that something which I should be looking at getting or make up the media components myself. If so which bits would you recommend me buying?
     
  4. LondonDragon

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    Re: External Filter: Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500

    Some filters already come with complete media kit, check to see with the vendor if it does or not.
     
  5. Superman

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    Re: External Filter: Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500

    Even better, I'll have a shop around.
     
  6. Superman

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    Re: External Filter: Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500

    Do people think that the quoted flow output for the Eheim 2324 (500 l/hr( is sufficient for my 180ltr tank?

    Just want to make sure I get the best option price wise.
     
  7. ceg4048

    ceg4048 Expert/Global Moderator Staff Member

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    Re: External Filter: Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500

    Hi,
    Our standard suggestion for a high light tank is 10X the tank volume per hour. Filters never even come close to their rated throughput. Many of the algae problems in a high light tank can be traced directly to poor flow and subsequent poor nutrient/CO2 distribution.

    Cheers,
     
  8. LondonDragon

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    Re: External Filter: Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500

    George Farmer recommended this for my tank:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TETRATEC-EX1200-E ... dZViewItem

    Yours is slightly bigger so I would suggest would be ideal for you too ;)
    Worth a look and its cheaper than any Eheim.
     
  9. LondonDragon

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    Re: External Filter: Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500

    Just saw this new post by daniel on his journal, thought I would put it his comment for your reference.

     
  10. Superman

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    Re: External Filter: Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500

    Thanks once again, really value people's input.

    Unfortunatley, I wasn't able to shop last night as was busy in the pub watching Hull City get to the play off finals!! :D

    I'm going to take some time to have a look at external filters on Saturday afternoon / evening as I'm busy for the next few nights.

    That Tetratec EX1200 looks good, I'll have more of a read on Saturday (or later today at work when the boss isn't around :twisted: )
     
  11. Steve Smith

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    Re: External Filter: Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500

    Tetratec range is very good, and some say (I haven't confirmed this yet) that the flow they state, ie 1200lph, is with media where as most manufacturers LPH claims are without media.

    I've emailed Tetra to see what they say about this :)
     
  12. JamesC

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    Re: External Filter: Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500

    Did I read somewhere that Tetratec's are having problems with leaking seals and some have needed to be returned for a replacement? Might be worth buying from a reputable source just in case you need to return it, and not a cheapie off fleabay.

    James
     
  13. Steve Smith

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    Re: External Filter: Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500

    I think this was last year sometime. I believe it was the tank hang over connectors between the inlet/outlet and the hosing. Might of been a dodgy batch.
     
  14. JamesC

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    Re: External Filter: Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500

    That sounds like it. Some people have brought them cheap on fleabay and then had problems trying to get them returned. Hence why I don't buy items like this of fleabay as they are often seconds or returns being sold as new.

    James
     
  15. Superman

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    Re: External Filter: Eheim 2324 vs JBL CristalProfi EL500

    I think the Tetratec EX1200 will be one I buy. Just want to go home to make sure it'll fit in my standard Juwel Vision 180 cabinet.

    At 26cm length, 25cm width 50cm height it might be a squeeze. Although thinking of it, my tank is 92cm wide so if there's about an equal three bits to it (two cupboards and one shelf) then thats ~30cm width for each.

    I normally don't buy large items from ebay incase of problems and would rather buy from a decent aquarist dealer.
     
  16. milla

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    EX1200 Dimensions are 26/25/50cm l/w/h it fits in my 180 stand with a bit of a squeeze to hook up the pipes, external co2 reactor and heater.
     
  17. LondonDragon

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    Should fit, George had his on a Juwel Rio 125, I am sure he placed it inside the cabinet.
     
  18. Superman

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    Cool, will get that ordered then.

    What wattage in-line heater would be best?

    I guess I'll have to run both the internal and external for a while?
     
  19. LondonDragon

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    200w should be enough! I never removed my internal from my tank, but if you plan to do so run them in parallel for 2/3 weeks until your external gets populated with bacteria.
     
  20. milla

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    Re : heater

    The tetratec uses 16mm internal tubing so go for the external heater that fits otherwise you will experiance a drop in flow. I believe this is the 300w hydor.
     

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