Hi Johnny, Thanks for the info mate. No I don't think you'll get slated for helping someone out. As it happens I rang AE to find out when they expect the CSM+ trace elements in and Richard reckons it will be about a fortnight before they have it in again. I did buy all the other dry salts for EI dosing from AE and they recommended for the time being the Tropica liquid trace elements which will just have to do until they get some in. I rang Garden Direct first but the person I spoke to had no idea what I was talking about, they did say they would get someone to ring me back though. Thanks, Steve.