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eSHa Protolon 707
- Thread starter CJM70
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Hi @CJM70
I tried to find out about the active ingredients in Protolon 707 by searching for the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS or just SDS) - to no avail. Did the instructions that were supplied with Protolon 707 disclose the active ingredient(s)? It's far better to avoid treatments, if possible. Keep or sell? It's entirely up to you. The expiry date may be worth checking.
JPC
I tried to find out about the active ingredients in Protolon 707 by searching for the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS or just SDS) - to no avail. Did the instructions that were supplied with Protolon 707 disclose the active ingredient(s)? It's far better to avoid treatments, if possible. Keep or sell? It's entirely up to you. The expiry date may be worth checking.
JPC
Expiry fine. Here are some pics of box and info sheet. Unsurprisingly no details of what it actually is. But if you are interested in half you could always contact them. I might talk to to Mark J who is based over there and see if he knows anything about it or has tried it, or if he wants me to post it over for him to test out 😀
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MirandaB
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It's annoying that they won't disclose the ingredients of this but I strongly suspect copper is involved in there somewhere as a friend on facebook dosed her tank with it and the loaches reacted very badly.
Hi @MirandaB
In that case, I'd like to suggest that one of your words above, 'annoying' be replaced with the word 'irresponsible'.
Clearly, a company to avoid.
JPC
Maf 2500
Member
Not snail safe either according to the blurb
Nick potts
Member
Hi @MirandaB
In that case, I'd like to suggest that one of your words above, 'annoying' be replaced with the word 'irresponsible'.
Clearly, a company to avoid.
JPC
Unfortunately, it is not just them that keeps their formulas hidden, a lot of companies either don't state or hide it well enough that most people wouldn't find it.
Esha does make some good products/meds though, but it would be nice to know what you are dosing.
Nick potts
Member
Yeah I saw that, copper would fit the bill, as would a few other chemicals used in other companies anti algae products
Hi @Nick potts
I am unclear about the legislation around aquatic products. For example, Seachem, an American company appears to issue a Materials Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) with some, if not all of their relevant products. From recollection, the product, Renew even has an MSDS and it's just a filter medium. Having said this, any responsible company producing products for the aquatics market should know full well that copper is one of the most toxic heavy metals to all aquatic life - even at a very low concentration.
JPC
This is interesting. I inherited this stuff along with loads of other extras with a fish tank that I had purchased recently. The owner of the tank had a planted aquarium with shrimps and snails in. He didn't report any problems.
I don't have a copper test kit unfortunately or I would put some in water and try it out.
Hi Everyone,
Following on from above, I just want to give an example of what I was waffling on about. The following link is the 'Home' page for Seachem Cupramine:
seachem.com
In the drop-down list at the top of the page, click on 'Resources > Safety Data Sheets (SDS). In the list, select 'Cupramine'. And, finally, in Section 3, it lists one component - Copper Sulfate
Simple, as I believe a TV ad says/used to say!
BTW, I am not a Seachem employee!
JPC
Following on from above, I just want to give an example of what I was waffling on about. The following link is the 'Home' page for Seachem Cupramine:
Seachem - Cupramine
seachem.com
In the drop-down list at the top of the page, click on 'Resources > Safety Data Sheets (SDS). In the list, select 'Cupramine'. And, finally, in Section 3, it lists one component - Copper Sulfate
Simple, as I believe a TV ad says/used to say!
BTW, I am not a Seachem employee!
JPC
hypnogogia
Member
The name ‘Cupramine’ kind of gives us a clue as to its copper content.
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John q
Member
Seachem are notorious for withholding information regards what's in their products. Admittedly they often produce saftey data sheets, but frequently they hide the actual contents claiming "trade secrets"
Saftey data sheet for prime.
Saftey data sheet for excel.
Personally I think the protolon 707 is probably ~
Hi @John q
Yes, we've mentioned this several times on UKAPS. Frustrating, isn't it? Having said this, if there were safety implications, I guess even the "trade secrets" would be made available by some means. No, that wouldn't work, would it? Perhaps anything that is considered a 'trade secret' can be kept this way because the chemicals in this category do not present a potential safety hazard? I'm just thinking out loud. Please ignore me if I'm talking rubbish!
JPC
hypnogogia
Member
According to Wikipedia it probably is.
