Filter Porn - ADA Superjet

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I didn't realise they did such a large filter.

Makes you wonder though just how much you can charge for a bucket with a pump!
 

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Lovely filters that will last a long time if your pockets are deep enough it is an easy way to make sure you have good filtration and a good turnover of your scape.

However you could save yourself a lot of money and get a cheap plastic bucket and pump like for example an FX6 (mine is 3years old). As to the biological filtration and active carbon of the filters we dont really need them as out plants provide most of the biological filtration in our planted tanks re bio media for fluval 305, but active arbon does also provide great biological filtration with its massive surface are to volume ratio once its active properties are exhausted. All I use is mechanical filtration in my filter with minimal biological/ceramic media. As to their great output to aid tank turnover/flow there are other ways to improve tank turnover/flow like powerheads or maxspect gyres. I have the later and find them great for my tank as you can customise their output on a schedule so different flows for different times of day/night the controller has 24 slots.

Would I use an ADA superjet - yes if given one as to buying one I dont feel there is the need once you cut though the marketing 'hype' But yes very sexy :D would need to fit a glass door to my cabinet :lol:
 

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Anyone used a Chihiros stainless steel filter? Looks like an ADA copy but they do a model that's around three foot tall!
 

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Anyone used a Chihiros stainless steel filter? Looks like an ADA copy but they do a model that's around three foot tall!
Seen them in person (as well as the ADA ones). Chihiros comes pretty close but has some (minor) imperfections. Also the Chihiros pump isnt that powerful in direct comparison with a filled filter.
 

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Love mine to bits

Certainly a bit louder than other plastic filters out there, but this thing pushes water through solid rock and in a cabinet you won't notice anyway.

Marketing BS aside, this filter is advertised as "heart of the nature aquarium" and after using it for a couple of months I have to say it fits the profile pretty well. I'm not going to theorize whether biological filtration is important in a planted tank, or if turnovers could be achieved cheaper/easier. Bottom line I've never ran with fever issues than after I installed this thing, and this is a super basic filter concept. Like most ADA products on or off is what you get. The glassware included is nice, on par with CAL and miles better, more solid, than chinese knockoffs. The tubing is similar to food-grade tubing from construction markets, so you might as well buy replacement there for a much lower price.

Bio media is all I use, the ADA one is arguably so fine grained it doubles as mechanical. Water never been clearer and virtually no algae.
It's easy to hate what you've never tried
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And yeah, they are pretty sleek looking too :D
 

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Having been in the reef hobby for 40 years the price of a ADA filter is nothing compared with just the pumps used in the marine hobby. Iwaki pumps are not cheap in any way. The one on the 600 is 270 euros. I have iwaki pumps that are 30 years old now and are still running.
I have bought several brands on lily pipes. Many brands the intake does extend as far down to the bottom as and ADA Lilly pipe and the finish is not to a high level. I spent 45 years working on pumps in an industrial setting so I have bad pumps. I also worked with welders doing stainless steel welding and if one had to make a stainless steel container to the same high standards of a ADA superjet. It would not be a cheap one shot job.
 

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None - V2 is only for the smaller 150-300 series, which doesn't use IWAKI pumps.

Mine is a 600 series.
I don’t get this. All this talk about powerful pumps yet the 600 is only rated at 5.5l/min so just 330L/hr??
 

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I don’t get this. All this talk about powerful pumps yet the 600 is only rated at 5.5l/min so just 330L/hr??
Thing is - this is actual performance fully loaded with media. For example I use a a JBL901 lightly loaded with media, this is "on paper" 900L/H but I can easily tell that the ES-600 has a much higher flow, and this filter is packed
 

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@Shinobi

Having that very conversation today! Flow rate we suspect is taking into account media and head height to tank.

What sized tank do you run your on ES600 or the X one?

On the 600 models 5.5 or 6 L litres per min, so basically 360 L/PH, equates to 600 L/PH on what it says on the box with any other brand? But it’s pumping out more than your JBL that is rated at 900 L/PH due to design I guess.

Do you run just supplied media or any prefilter type stuff and fine floss?

Sorry for the questions! :)

Cheers


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@Shinobi

Having that very conversation today! Flow rate we suspect is taking into account media and head height to tank.

What sized tank do you run your on ES600 or the X one?

On the 600 models 5.5 or 6 L litres per min, so basically 360 L/PH, equates to 600 L/PH on what it says on the box with any other brand? But it’s pumping out more than your JBL that is rated at 900 L/PH due to design I guess.

Do you run just supplied media or any prefilter type stuff and fine floss?

Sorry for the questions! :)

Cheers


S.
Yeah, think most manufacturers rate their flows way above double the actual performance. Those numbers are usually only viable when the filter is running perfectly clean and completely emptied from media and baskets.

Es-600 is recommended for use on 60-90P sized tanks, I use it on the latter. It's interesting cause I spoke to some of the ADA staff whether to pick the model 600 or 1200 for my 90P, and they told me to go for the 600, saying 1200 is too much flow for a 180L - knowing they could've sold me on a more expensive filter. If you look at the ADA gallery ES-600 is all they use on their 90p setups.

I run the filter with ADA Bio Rio, which is a very fine bio media - unfortunately this is not supplied with the filter (it's filled with carbon and sponge in the package) so sold separately, but is a one time investment and not all that expensive. According to the Green Aqua guys; Bio Rio clogs up in normal filters, so it's designed for the ADA filters

I personally live in a heated house. Room temp is almost constant 23c, so no point in running a heater for aquascaping
 

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