Filter Porn - ADA Superjet

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It's interesting cause I spoke to some of the ADA staff whether to pick the model 600 or 1200 for my 90P, and they told me to go for the 600, saying 1200 is too much flow for a 180L - knowing they could've sold me on a more expensive filter. If you look at the ADA gallery ES-600 is all they use on their 90p setups.

Not so strange if the strategy is that the majority of nutrition is located in the soil (Amazonia saves the need for water column distribution, except for replenishment of potassium and steady micros) and lower surface agitation (which leads to a more dependable level of dissolved Co2). Principally ADA’s system, eloquently removing all components that are likely to be variable.

They differ on their advice for the H series of aquariums as they have a higher volume of water to the amount of surface area for gas exchange I would imagine.

Just a couple of musings. They sell a system that’s been thoroughly worked out.

Their filters are more art than filter. Those welds in that material are no joke.
 

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Yeah, think most manufacturers rate their flows way above double the actual performance. Those numbers are usually only viable when the filter is running perfectly clean and completely emptied from media and baskets.

Es-600 is recommended for use on 60-90P sized tanks, I use it on the latter. It's interesting cause I spoke to some of the ADA staff whether to pick the model 600 or 1200 for my 90P, and they told me to go for the 600, saying 1200 is too much flow for a 180L - knowing they could've sold me on a more expensive filter. If you look at the ADA gallery ES-600 is all they use on their 90p setups.

I run the filter with ADA Bio Rio, which is a very fine bio media - unfortunately this is not supplied with the filter (it's filled with carbon and sponge in the package) so sold separately, but is a one time investment and not all that expensive. According to the Green Aqua guys; Bio Rio clogs up in normal filters, so it's designed for the ADA filters

I personally live in a heated house. Room temp is almost constant 23c, so no point in running a heater for aquascaping


Really interesting post @Shinobi. Loads of good info. I knew the recommended tank size but interesting to hear the advice you received from the ADA store, I’d have always gone for the larger one but if you go full on ADA philosophy, it makes sense. :)
 

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Really interesting post @Shinobi. Loads of good info. I knew the recommended tank size but interesting to hear the advice you received from the ADA store, I’d have always gone for the larger one but if you go full on ADA philosophy, it makes sense. :)

Thanks,

The info was not from the store or salespersons, but the actual maintenance staff at the ADA gallery in Japan - and they know a thing or two about keeping their tanks pristine :D
 

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Probably sacked on the spot for one bit of moss left in the carpet! :)

I checked those tanks with my face pushed against the glass and annoyingly not the slightest bit of algae or unhealthy plants were to be found. They might not produce the most impressive tanks - in a competitive view, but their maintenance - you have to see it to believe it
 

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I checked those tanks with my face pushed against the glass and annoyingly not the slightest bit of algae or unhealthy plants were to be found.

That made me chuckle :lol:

How very dare they!!! Must be very impressive in person. One thing to make a tank look good on the net but nothing beats looking at it up close.
 

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I know ADA products products get their knocking due to price, and lack of controllability, but any ADA product I have bought, from a fertiliser, tool to light always does was it says on the tin or exceeds what I had before by a mile!

Got a hankering for a Super Jet filter, just gotta justify the cost........:lol:
 
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I know ADA products products get their knocking due to price, and lack of controllability, but any ADA product I have bought, from a fertiliser, tool to light always does was it says on the tin or exceeds what I had before by a mile!

Got a hankering for a Super Jet filter, just gotta justify the cost........:lol:

Long term investment ;)
 

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I had an interesting discussion with the staff at Dave Chow's aquascaping shop (aqua art) about these filters and filter media. Apparently they are prone to big reductions in flow when used in combination with the Ada recommended bio media (bio Rio). They recommend to pack very lightly in the canister and use ring bio media to increase flow.

Also interestingly, they strongly recommend not to follow ADAs recommendations for filter sizes. From experience they think the flow is too weak for their recommended sizes and you should downgrade two aquarium sizes (e.g ES600 for 45P and 60p at a stretch).

I've used an es600 myself on a 36L tank without much issue but it was quite lightly packed, flow seemed alright. Might move it to a 60L to try it out but interesting comments from one of the best aqauscaping shops around.
 

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That’s interesting to hear.

Are there any other Super Jet users on here? Would be great to hear their experiences also.

Also interesting to know if they are using it with full ADA philosophy, ie, low dosing and downward facing lily pipe so minimal surface movement so no artificial gassing off of co2.

@Ryan Thang To maybe?
 

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I don’t find that idea correct. If the bio rio was causing slow flow or would get air coming out of the pump. I have never seen that. I have a 150 and 1200 set up just as ADA said too.
 

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A 150 and 1200 no prefilter. I do use a screen on the 150 as there are shrimps in that aquarium. The 1200 is on a new 120p ADA tank. Will start posting a build thread on that tank soon.
 

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That’s interesting to hear.

Are there any other Super Jet users on here? Would be great to hear their experiences also.

Also interesting to know if they are using it with full ADA philosophy, ie, low dosing and downward facing lily pipe so minimal surface movement so no artificial gassing off of co2.

@Ryan Thang To maybe?
Hi all

My filter was brand new without the box or filter media and i notice it didn't come with a sponge which was weird i always use eheim. I did have to cut a round filter sponge to go inside

The filter is definitely a piece of art. Heavy good bit of steel. Go really well in the cabinet and like @Shinobi said it is a bit louder than your other filter you use and flow wise mine seem to reduce down alot since i put a fat bag of eheim biomech which i sure that has reduce the flow. On my next filter clean i will leave a hand full of media inside and see if there is any difference.

One thing that is really annoying is the filter doesn't have a stop valve like the eheim quick release valve. Another £20 you have to spend

Cheers
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Well i picked it up today, an ADA Super Jet EX 600.

Pictures below at unboxing. I’ll be putting it on an Aquascaper 600, so a 100L tank. It is rated at 360L per hour including media as well as a massive head height.

ADA recommend it for their 60-p to 90-p tank.

This tank has always had an Eheim Pro 4 600 (1,250 L/ph) on it it until it broke yesterday (only 3 weeks out of warranty!).
It now has a Oase Thermo 600 (1,250 L/ph) on it. Both figures taken straight off the box so donot take into account media or any head height at all. It is a bit like mpg on new car manufacturers figures
This is the opposite with ADA so cannot compare these at all.

I’ll be plumbing it in after the weekend but will report back my thoughts if you are interested!

First thoughts after unboxing.

- I’m surprised how small it is.

- surprised the hosing is only 12mm, I expected the larger 16mm or mixed sizes.

- it is bloody heavy, you know it when you 1st pick the box up! (There is media in it already though).
l think it weighs as much as my Eheim or oase when they are filled with media AND water. No water in the ADA at the mo of course.

- well made doesn’t even begin to describe it. I think it would survive a nuclear bomb!

- glassware is usual ADA standard glassware (not a reduced quality which is what I feared).


I’ll do a short report of my views once plumbed in. Nothing scientific, just my thoughts and findings! :thumbup:

cheers


Steven


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Well i picked it up today, an ADA Super Jet EX 600.

Pictures below at unboxing. I’ll be putting it on an Aquascaper 600, so a 100L tank. It is rated at 360L per hour including media as well as a massive head height.

ADA recommend it for their 60-p to 90-p tank.

This tank has always had an Eheim Pro 4 600 (1,250 L/ph) on it it until it broke yesterday (only 3 weeks out of warranty!).
It now has a Oase Thermo 600 (1,250 L/ph) on it. Both figures taken straight off the box so donot take into account media or any head height at all. It is a bit like mpg on new car manufacturers figures
Thus is the opposite with ADA so cannot compare these at all.

I’ll be plumbing it in after the weekend but will report back my thoughts if you are interested!

First thoughts after unboxing.

- I’m surprised how small it is.

- surprised the hosing is only 12mm, I expected the larger 16mm or mixed sizes.

- it is bloody heavy, you know it when you 1st pick the box up! (There is media in it already though).
l think it weighs as much as my Eheim or oase when they are filled with media AND water. No water in the ADA at the mo of course.

- well made doesn’t even begin to describe it. I think it would survive a nuclear bomb!

- glassware is usual ADA standard glassware (not a reduced quality which is what I feared).


I’ll do a short report of my views once plumbed in. Nothing scientific, just my thoughts and findings! :thumbup:

cheers


Steven


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As a price comparison how much more expensive is it than say the oase 600

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J

it is this one Jay

https://www.aquariumgardens.co.uk/ada-super-jet-filter-es-600ex-series-with-lily-pipes-4716-p.asp

not cheap at £679. That does include proper media, clear tubing and glassware.

in comparison the Eheim pro 4 600 that I had is £200 (lasted 2 years and then broke) and oase thermo 600 inc heater is £240.

You can add £60 - £150 for glassware to those prices.

I’ll let you know how it compares. The next one up is, gulp, £1,200!!!!!!
 
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