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I've experienced the 'head shrinking' of Pantanals as well. I'm wondering whether it has anything to do with the level of water column dosing.
If Pantanal is in a tank with rich water column dosing, the fact that it loses its roots due to uprooting and replanting would not be a big loss to it, compared to say, a Pantanal in a tank with leaner dosing.
However (fingers crossed), Meta appears more tolerant of trimming and replanting.
Keep in mind I also front load all macros for the week right after a water change. If someone is following a schedule where they change water then space out macro dosing all week their nutrient levels are not stable. If you remove 50% or 75% of the water, you also remove 50% or 75% of the nutrients. Keeping levels stable goes a long with needy plants like Pantanal.

And having CO2 optimized is important as well. If my Pantanal acts up that's the first thing I double check.
Same here. Perhaps I could tweak CO2 / light a bit further but with the temperature swinging I am always a bit concerned about gazing the fish if temperature decreases.
I think fluctuating temperatures and fish response is greatly overblown. I haven't run any heaters in my tank in years. When I do a water change the water is pumped up from holding tanks in my basement. In the winter that water is quite cool. I used to heat it but don't anymore. Tank temp goes from about 74* to maybe 66* (23C to 19C). Fish don't blink and are fine. Remember in nature water temps change, even going a few feet deeper there is drop in temp. IMO it would have to be a pretty radical drop to have any effect on fish at all.
 

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I think fluctuating temperatures and fish response is greatly overblown. I haven't run any heaters in my tank in years. When I do a water change the water is pumped up from holding tanks in my basement. In the winter that water is quite cool. I used to heat it but don't anymore. Tank temp goes from about 74* to maybe 66* (23C to 19C). Fish don't blink and are fine. Remember in nature water temps change, even going a few feet deeper there is drop in temp. IMO it would have to be a pretty radical drop to have any effect on fish at all.
It's not the temperature affecting the fish that worries me. It's the dissolved CO2 in relation to temperature that concerns me. If your temp is stable you don't have much issues. If temp swings then that's a different thing. You also have a controller which regulates CO2 injection in relation to PH so you don't have much to worry about. That's not my case.
 

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It's not the temperature affecting the fish that worries me. It's the dissolved CO2 in relation to temperature that concerns me. If your temp is stable you don't have much issues. If temp swings then that's a different thing. You also have a controller which regulates CO2 injection in relation to PH so you don't have much to worry about. That's not my case.
Aha I misunderstood what you meant. Yes with my tank full of hard to replace Rainbows the controller acts as a fail safe. It's a bit trickier if you are dialing it in with a needle valve that is for sure.
 

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Haven't seen anything from you recently. Must be the hustle of summer! How's the tank going and any updates for us? How are you doing?
Thanks for checking in. Summers are short here in Michigan so the tank does not get the full attention is deserves. Here it is from yesterday. Not ready for prime time but going to whip it into shape soon. It needs a good cleaning and general maintenance to get everything back on track.

Also just had a few new plants arrive and need to put my thinking cap on and start getting more serious about placement.

As far as updates have slowly been turning back up the light. Was down at 70-80 PAR for quite a while. I guess I just can't drive 55, so lights are back up to about 140 for most of the day then up to a little over 200 PAR for three hours. Dosing is steady targeting 24:8:30 NO3 : PO4 : K in the water column at all times.

Other than that all is well. I have a daughter getting married in a couple of months and seems like that has taken over my life!!!
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What are the new goodies?
You should see very shortly. Joe Harvey sent me some new ones and I have to work out how I fit them in. Likely going to lose a few species as I am just overloaded.

First weekend in a long time not traveling or some other event going on so hope to whip things into shape real soon. Will report back once I get things going again.
 

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Glad to find you are here. Always enjoyed reading your thread on the planted tank forum. So sad about the Mod.
Hey Ed yeah the whole thing was stupid. I posted what is commonly known among a very successful group of planted tankers from around the world.

He disagreed and I was gone.
 

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Checked with Art. He has been to busy and doesn’t have the time right now for keeping the site up.
He did send me a link for the article in web archive.


I was wanting to work on changing my current tank to a Dutch style like yours.
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Checked with Art. He has been to busy and doesn’t have the time right now for keeping the site up.
He did send me a link for the article in web archive.


I was wanting to work on changing my current tank to a Dutch style like yours.
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Thanks Ed!

My tank would likely get DQ'd in a Dutch competition. It's more "Dutch" inspired as it does not follow many Dutch rules.

Your tank is looking great. If you go with more stems just be prepared......they grow.....a lot! Maintenance and pruning/trimming time will go up significantly.
 

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Had a chance to work on the tank today. Not the money shot but you get the idea. Seems like I always have a vision but getting it there takes time.

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So what are the new plants names? Not that I don't like playing "spot the differences", but might be better if you tell us ;)
I see you also whacked the tulu and replanted a small stem. What's up with that?
 

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So what are the new plants names? Not that I don't like playing "spot the differences", but might be better if you tell us ;)
I see you also whacked the tulu and replanted a small stem. What's up with that?
I am always amazed at the level of detail that people pick out of my tank pics. Right now I have a bunch of new plants that are just sprinkled in amongst the regulars. Joe Harvey sent me a nice mix and it will take some time to see how they do and find them permanent homes.

Most are not all that “exciting”. There has been a trend of people wanting to find and keep “rares”. I have found that many times the rares are not that great to scape with. I am actually going back in the other direction and putting back in some tried and true favorites of mine.

What I try to do is mix a variety of colors and leaf shapes to create something that draws your eye around the tank. Sometimes I am more successful than others, and I have found that some folks love it and some folks hate it. In the end matters little as I pretty much just do whatever is pleasing to my eye. If I can sit for a long time staring at the tank and not lose interest then it’s what I set out to do.

So let’s take the Tulu you mentioned. I’ve kept it for a while but it has a similar color and leaf shape as other species that I keep. With everything else that I have I just don’t have a good spot to place it where it adds a lot to the presentation. That being said I kept a single stem just until I see how everything shapes up. Same for Macranda Variegated. I’ve kept the same batch going for about 8 years now. In my tank very similar color to Rotala Blood Red SG. I can only have so many red/pink plants or it could get overwhelming, so it might be time to phase it out. I feel like you need a balance with greens and other colors. I’ve seen some tanks where it's almost all reds and it doesn’t work for me. Of course in the meantime I did keep one stem just in case I change my mind!

Here is the list of what’s new.

Blyxa octandra, Hygrophila corymbosa 'Compact', Ludwigia Repens 'Rubin', Physostegia Purpurea, Rotala Mexicana Goias, Isoetes lacustris, Staurogyne spatulate, Lobelia cardinalis Mini.

I needed something grassy in the mix and the Blyxa Octandra should work well. Larger grassy plant stays green/yellow. Brings a nice contrast to other species. I wanted to add a large leaved red plant so added Ludwigia “Rubin”. I am going to keep it medium height as I like the way it is framed by the L. Cuba and Bacopa behind it.

Added back Hygro Cory Compact. Nothing special, easy to grow, but adds a burst of green at the foreground with a nice leaf shape. Same for L. Cardinalis mini. Common plant but should be nice in the foreground once it spreads and fills in.

Right now the R. Mexicana Goias is just sitting to the right of the Barclaya. The next step will be moving it to the foreground once it settles in a bit.

So right or wrong that is how my thought process works. These pics are really of a tank in transition. I have a vision of where I want it to be. Less species with fuller groups. A bit more “Dutch” like if you will.

But heck I could probably always say it’s a work in progress. Funny thing is some people see my tank and think it’s always the same. But rarely do I take a pic where everything is in the same place as the previous one. Subtle changes that few would notice but I do.

Now are your sorry you asked?:D
 
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