Playing about with this at the moment, and tried one layout, which isn't working for me. I'm currently waiting on a bag of AS from TGM (should be with me tomorrow) as I didn't have enough. I'm scaping with Seiryu stone, but I have a limited amount. Sadly, no big chunks. Might be aquiring some more this weekend from Ice if I can arrange transportation I'm now trying to decide if I should go for a mound or, like I have been playing with, 2 opposing sides. I've been having trouble getting a good feeling of depth. My rocks are a bit too small Planting with be mostly Rotala sp green and then some highlight plants, along with downoi and maybe hair grass or some such up front. Sooo... mound or opposing?