Island Pico

Discussion in 'Journals' started by NeilW, 19 Mar 2010.

  1. NeilW

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    Just an idea that I'm thinking of giving a go...

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    You stole my idea for the Emmerged Competition :lol:
     
  4. Gill

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    I was looking at the exact same glassware in TKMAXX the other Day.
    The Hob Can Work, If you mod the inlet pipe with some Tubing and then attach the Inlet to the tubing.
    I have done this to another HOB and It Works Great,.
    I will get some pix for you.
     
  5. Steve Smith

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    Great idea Neil :) It's got me thinking about how you could do something with a filter in that setup. Will ponder it and post later if I come up with anything :)
     
  6. NeilW

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    Sorry :lol: I saw that bowl in IKEA a while back and I've been itching to start. Not sure what to run with though atm either terrestrial, an 'island', or completely submerged.

    Sounds good you'll have to show me :thumbup:

    Cheers Steve, any ideas are welcome! I think I may set it up when I get back later and do water changes by hand to start and then I can make a more educated/informed choice from everyone at a later point.
     
  7. Gill

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    Here are some pix.

    Cut the Uplift Pipe to where i could suitably push fit the tubing into.
    The cut to length, and attach.
    This was you can position the Inlet anywhere in the tank, without having to worry about Sucking in Gravel and Sand.

    I had used Electricians Black PVC tape to Seal it in the past, but not needed if you haet up the tubing and push fit it.

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  8. Jase

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    My thoughts were of doing a bit of both, with the likes of HC coming out of the water being emmerged and submersed. The raised island will give you scope for a range of plants
     
  9. NeilW

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    Nice one, thanks Gill. Is the height of where the filter sits in relation to the water level still an issue?
    Thats a nice idea. I'm still trying to work out how to construct 'the island'. I can think of two ways;

    1) Mound of of soil constructed using a mix of Nature Soil with Tropica clay-based base layer to hold its shape in a similar way to a wabi-kusa. Aquatic moss somehow tied around the outside of the submerged part to stop the soil bleeding into the water.

    2) Plastic acetate used as a divider, soil mix added in the middle and moss covered stones sloped up to the outside.

    Preferably I'd like to give the first one a go as I could get a smoother curve/transition to the 'mound'. Any ideas?
     
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    I think the island needs to be more solid than Naturesoil (like you say, wabi-kusa type balls), possibly sat on or surrounded by a base of rocks to hold the shape. I think you'll need a fair bit of trial and error, especially as you're going for flitration too, consider any potential erroding of the island by the flow.
     
  11. Gill

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    From what I remember, It does not cause an issue.

    You Could also use one of the eden 501 externals, or zoomed turtle external.
    On the other hand, you could make an Pico External using a Sealeable Sandwich box and a powerhead.
     
  12. BAE

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    for the pump if you wanted to disquise it you could use a key safe (you know them things people put there keys in that look like rocks and leave on the garden)
     
  13. NeilW

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    Created the land part tonight;

    the 'island' was created using plastic acetate as a divider filled with Nature Soil
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    collected some local moss earlier
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    thoroughly washed to remove any soil
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    chopped to a 'powder' (this can all be done with a blender if you have one). Smells like freshly mown lawn :)
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    The ingredients (although I only used a splash of beer, can't go to waste ;) )
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    All ingredients mixed to the consistency of paint using a palette knife. Beware the smelly buttermilk :sick:
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    Finally the moss 'paste' is applied using a palette knife and paint brush
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    Currently sat in my windowsill out of direct sunlight. Hopefully I'll it'll start growing!
     
  14. Steve Smith

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    Bizzare, yet very cool! I've seen that youghurt/blender technique for encouraging moss on stones before. Hope it works out OK :)
     
  15. samc

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    this will look great :thumbup:

    never heard of mixing the moss with buttermilk o_O where did you hear about that? im interested in how it grow
     
  16. Mark Evans

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    tis true. many years ago, and sometimes still, roofers often poured milk onto roof slates to encourage moss growth to give a more 'weathered' look. and to also stop cats walking on roofs....they don't like walking on the slippery surface after the moss has grown
     
  17. Mark Evans

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    this is awesome by the way :thumbup:
     
  18. NeilW

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    Thanks Steve :D hopefully I'll get some kind of result from it. I have to agree it was a bit odd, more like icing a cake then scaping :lol:

    Cheers Sam, hopefully it'll work out and I can start on the submerged bit.

    I was inspired by 'environmental graffiti' and guerilla gardening and all that where you can grow any design you want on walls in moss. Found it through some graphics research a few years ago. Google search 'environmental graffiti recipe' They do all stuff like 'seed bombs' to transform the concrete jungle :lol:

    I think I've seen it used to make stone garden ornaments look 'aged'

    Thanks a lot Saintly :D I am always humbled by your mighty scapes!
     
  19. BAE

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    that moss thing is very odd never heard off that before sort of thing you get a special jacket for :lol:


    whats that


    oh thats just my yogurt moss island XD
     
  20. NeilW

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    Being on an 'arty' course in uni means I've done worse :lol:
     

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