Jase's 28l Long/Shallow - "Attrition"

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Jase, 24 Aug 2009.

  1. Jase

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    This will be my second 'scape and my first Journal o_O

    The tank is 8” wide, 9” tall and 24” long, float glass tank I had lying in the garage, which used to house a friend's Desert Hairy Scorpions :twisted:

    I have an idea in my head of how I want it to look but without influencing opinions, I am very open to suggestions as this is an awkward size :woot:

    Equipment is none existant as yet but I have the facility to use CO2 but would prefer not to, again opinions/experiences welcome.

    Filtration will probably end up being an external, maybe a Tetratec ex400 (i love my ex1200) if I can get my hands on one cheap enough, or at all, or possibly go back to the wicked ways of Fluval with the 105. The alternative would be a HOB filter, which I like the idea of but have no experience with. Internal is not an option I approve of anymore.

    Lighting might be difficult to decide upon, although a 2ft luminaire would make sense, but again this would be new territory for someone who's only used PC and T8 tube lighting.

    Heating. If possible, no heating, room temp would be great, otherwise it'll be small internal heater hidden behind the hardscape :oops: Obviously my preference would be external heater but I haven't got one for my 125l so can't favouritise with my newer project :oops:

    Hardscape, possibly some good ol' British driftwood or Redmoor root, depending on what I can find. A few small rocks wouldn't go amiss in the image in my head.

    Flora. Planting-wise i'm thinking the obligatory M.pteropus and possibly a few small anubias, would like to try some type of grass, but again :rolleyes: I will be advised on this, to suit the setup :lol: Crypts are also a firm fave of mine along with Staurogyne but probably wont use the latter

    Substrate is a big'un, I'm thinking Oli Knott's NS in the planted areas with some sort of dull orange/brown sand at one end, contrasting with the rocks and grass

    Anyway....what I have come up with so far... :lol:

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  2. samc

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    i quite like the size apart from the depth which is a little limited.

    i would go for an iwagumi. you could create a nice one in there :thumbup:
     
  3. Jase

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    Depth being front to back? I completely agree, could do with being atleast 12 if not 15inches front to back.

    My first thought was Iwagumi as I suggested in Steven Chong's thread about shallow tanks viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6784

    Iwagumi would be very much out of my comfort zone :lol:
     
  4. samc

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    iwagumis IMO are not as hard as you think.

    you could look at one you like a copy it. obveiously you cant exacly but you just need to take time with them. you can do it slowly and leave it for a while to see if you like it and change it here and there until you like it.
     
  5. Themuleous

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  6. hydrophyte

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    That tank has an interesting, non-traditional shape. I am intrigued to see how this develops.
     
  7. Jase

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    Thanks for that link Sam, looks great with the additional substrate later in the Journal 8) Don't know if I could be doing with all that HC maintenence though :lol: Tempted to try it though, as like you said in the journal, small tank is cheap to re-scape at any point...
     
  8. Jase

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    Thanks, should be a nice challenge regardless of whether I try something unusual :lol:
     
  9. zig

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    Nice little tank,I like unusual shaped tanks, nice little chip on it as well ;) I saw a great tank earlier this summer which I was tempted to buy, it was 36"x12"x12", not particularily unusual but it was very long for its height, I could imagine doing aquascapes in it though. Interesting to see how you get on :thumbup:
     
  10. Jase

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    Thanks Peter, yes I'm a little disappointed there is a chip but hopefully I can cover it up with the filter gubbins :D

    The only worry I have with the lack of front-to-back depth is making the scape seem 2 dimensional...
     
  11. Jase

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    Had a little scribble over the weekend and came up with this. Some of the plants I haven't used before, i.e. grasses, marsilea, HC.

    Provisional planting list:

    Eleocharis parvula
    Eleocharis acicularis
    Microsorum pteropus
    'narrow'
    Cryptocoryne sp. possibly moehlmannii or becketti 'petchii'
    Marsilea hirsuta or Hemianthes callitrichoides 'cuba'
    Also something small that looks like Bolbitis...

    In the pic I've put Vallis nana, that isn't going in

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  12. Dan Crawford

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    That looks great, if it turns out as planned it'll be a stunner!
     
  13. Jase

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    Thanks Dan, any thoughts on a Bolbitis-looking small plant?
     
  14. Dan Crawford

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    If it were me, i'd go for some really nice moss as Bolbitis on the end of a piece of wood might look a little unnatural. Bolibtis could still be good, just keep it trimmed to keep it small, if thats the look your going for?
     
  15. samc

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    looks good jase

    i have read a piece by amano himself saying that he like to put bolbitis on the end of the wood as it looks the most natural. i thought myself that this would look strange but he has it growing out of the water which you could do too, and it looks ace.
     
  16. Dan Crawford

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    Amano who? :lol: :oops:
     
  17. samc

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    :lol: i thought it sounded strange tbh but in the big tank in the gallery it works.

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    you can just see on there
     
  18. Jase

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    I like the idea of it breaking the surface, perhaps putting it along the top piece of wood instead of the java fern would work well.

    Going to be ordering the substrate some time this week, going for Oli Knott's NS for the planted areas, shouldn't need much I wouldn't have thought.

    The stones are going to be the biggy, might have to venture to TGM for some Dragon Stone :thumbup:
     
  19. Dan Crawford

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    TDi Line is selling a load ;)
    It's always worth hand picking your stones :D
     
  20. Jase

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    I have wood... :D

    Went to a mate's house last night as he has some driftwood collected from various UK beaches. Some nice bits, though most are too big but I managed to get 5 nice bits, three of which I will probably use unless something else catches my eye when (if) I go to TGM at the weekend.
     

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