Wookii
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Thanks man - really appreciate that.
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Kinabalu (60 x 40 x 40)
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Thanks man - really appreciate that.
Wookii
Member
A bit overdue a trim!
Its amazing how quickly nature takes over!
Its amazing how quickly nature takes over!
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Paul Kettless
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Incredible plant growth, its almost like you have no rocks or wood in there now 🤣
Wookii
Member
Tell me about it! All the stressing and and fine detail work over the rockery and now I can’t see the bloody thing 😂
Wookii
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. . . and peace has been restored to the Galaxy . . .
Wookii
Member
Quite a lot of decent cuttings, I figure given the current plant shortages in shops, a UKAPS member might appreciate these . . .
Wookii
Member
Thanks Sam.
I really like, in the shot from the end, how the little umbrellas of Hydrocotyle verticillata have just appeared out of nowhere.
I planted some in there on the far right of that shot, when the tank was set up, but they seemed to die off and disappeared.
Now, months later they’ve reappeared with a vengeance.
Never grown it, but it always looked really good in AGs 900 aquascape.
Those embers really pop under the vivid.
not called Bob
Member
do you rate the Nero? I have stripped a mp40 down and looks like both wet and dryside bearings are a bit suspect, so probably cheaper to get one of these
is it on a random ramp up or do you run it at a constant speed, post hair cut tank looks good btw
is it on a random ramp up or do you run it at a constant speed, post hair cut tank looks good btw
Wookii
Member
The Nero 3 is great @not called Bob - it’s impossibly tiny for the huge amount of water it can push through. Plus it’s got a really wide outflow cone, so although it’s moving a lot of water, you don’t get that narrow high velocity jet that you get with other stream pumps.
I’m also a sucker for app control, and the set up of the Nero is really flexible. As you say you can change output at different times of the day etc. I haven’t experimented a great deal, but I have it on a slow pulse mode between 30% and 40% which give a slight ebb and flow variation to plant movement, but there are lots of other set up options.
One thing I would say though, if you have shrimp, budget for an after market guard. The Nero 3 does come with one, which is enough to stop shrimp getting through to the impellers, but the suction through the guard is so powerful that if they land on it, they get sucked into it like the Alien at the airlock (Aliens movie reference!).
This is the only decent one I could find - which isn’t cheap once you add shipping and customs charges etc:
3D Printed AI Nero 3 Cone Anemone Guard ABS Aqua Illumination Nero3 | eBay
This mounts along with your magnet on the wall of your aquarium and your pump slides into the cradle. This covers the intake side to keep small fish, anemones and other animals from the impeller. The magnet portion is a tight friction fit, whereas the pump has a small amount of room around it to...
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It works very well and lessens the suction issue at the guard. Hopefully now the Nero 3 has been out a while some UK 3D printing folks will sort some designs out.
not called Bob
Member
Oh that's nice to know. I have a few friends with printers and never seen to know what to print, so maybe I can find a shape file and give them a task.
The mp40 used to be run on random, great for kicking up the muck. But possibly a little strong for the freshwater setup compared to the marines, that loved good spin cycle
The mp40 used to be run on random, great for kicking up the muck. But possibly a little strong for the freshwater setup compared to the marines, that loved good spin cycle
Wookii
Member
Yeah I did quite a bit of research on them. I did consider the MP10, as I liked the fact that all the wires were on the outside of the tank.
But I liked the wider output cone of the Nero, it’s smaller size, the fact that it’s output goes down to a much gentler minimum point (i.e. it’s lowest setting is almost zero flow), and the fact that it can be angled +/- 15 degrees (slightly more in practice with the guard on).
not called Bob
Member
The only downside with the motor outside is if not perfectly lined up, you get some very noisy vibrations, handy to stop heat and keep things clean though and yes it's either on or off at its lowest setting, fine if balanced as you don't hear the ramping but if knocked it's very apparent
terrytherat
Seedling
that was a really kind gesture
your tank is looking great
Wookii
Member
Thanks - I always feel a bit guilty when I put healthy plants in the bin given how much they cost in the shops. So if someone can benefit instead, and the forum benefits from a donation, then everyone wins I guess.
not called Bob
Member
Know what you mean, it's after I have added stems and floaters to the flower bed, that I'm all ops should have posted to here or the village blog. Though nothing I have is anything special and I definitely have snails and shrimps to provide hitchhikers
Paul Kettless
Member
Im curious by the positioning of your inlet and outlet in this tank, as it does'nt seem to have an easy path in. I'm assuming its picking up all the fine particles through the rocks, wood and background plants just fine, hence why you have kept it that way.
As you know I opted for the Nero 3 also after talking with you, and I'm trying to work out the best positions for the inlet, outlet and the nero in a triangular composition from left back to right front. I counted out the back left position right from the start as I assumed that the background plants would restrict the flow, and also get battered by the outflow. Your tank seems to defy that thought...
As you know I opted for the Nero 3 also after talking with you, and I'm trying to work out the best positions for the inlet, outlet and the nero in a triangular composition from left back to right front. I counted out the back left position right from the start as I assumed that the background plants would restrict the flow, and also get battered by the outflow. Your tank seems to defy that thought...
Wookii
Member
No, the rock forms two terraces Paul, they're completely filled with crushed lava rock and soil, and the filter inlet, which is covered with a stainless steel mesh shrimp guard, sit on top of the soil at the rear, so nothing is really drwn through the rock as such.
A primary objective for me is having as little equipment visible as possible, so having the overflow outlet (for the automated water changes), and the filter inlet and outlet in the rear corner was the obvious choice, and that drove the positioning for me. The filter outlet fires water across the surface over the tops of the stems and creates some turbulence and distribution in amongst them, it then hits the side glass at something of an angle, bounces towards the front glass and then travels along the middle and bottom of the front of the tank, before being drawn back up over the front of the rocks and through the stems.
This seems to give a good circular distribution, and covers almost all areas, and as an added bonus creates a natural collection point for detritus in the bottom left hand corner for easy vacuuming out. My main issue has been that having a large CO2 reactor on the filter outlet sucks the velocity out of the flow from the Oase 850, so the Nero 3 was required to give the flow a bit more of a push around the front of the tank to ensure that I got a bit of leaf movement on the far left hand side.
I probably could have done away with the CO2 reactor and just accepted more CO2 bubbles in the tank, and a higher injection rate, and then might not have needed the Nero 3, but it's working as is now, and I've accepted the aesthetic for now.
Paul Kettless
Member
Appreciate the detailed response, makes much more sense now, I assumed that the inlet was low to the bottom like the conventional approach. seems to def work for you, the tank is looking very good indeed.
