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tam

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I don't have a concrete plan yet, but step one: check tank fits is complete (it does just, down to the mm)

Tank is 30Wx76Lx31H

My very rough plan is currently sticks and crypts on the bottom and emersed out the top

Next on the agenda:
Attempt removal of black plastic trim
Work out how to light it - I want a high up light for the emersed growth
Background - do I need to frost it to hide any annoying drips that go down the back as it's tight to the wall?

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Popped off the black trim. Brought a piece of wood today - I think I'll get a few small bits too. Nice flat section on the back of the top though for some emersed growth. I think I'll need a taller lamp, perhaps wall mounting would work better. I've got a bag of sand for the front, fine gravel for further back - not sure whether to add something underneath - maybe some plant substrate as I'm think crypts.
 

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Got the substrate in, tropica substrate at the back, capped with fine gravel and sand at the front. Ended up flipping the wood around. Got water in too, then ran out of time. Need to sort more lights, plant plants and nick a filter out of my other tank.
 

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That's some pretty driftwood, love the texture on the bit poking out of the water. May I ask what you have planned for the emergent part?
 

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I'm not 100% sure yet. I'm going to hang a peace lilly in the water just behind the wood but there is a lovely textured flatish area that I think wants something smaller so it's not completely hidden. I think I might start with some garden moss and go from there.
 

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I would be careful with peace lilies unless you have a particulary small cultivar, at least for me they tend to like that kind of placement a bit too much and try to overshadow everything else. For the wood a small orchid might look nice, especially if you have the patience to guide the roots so that they follow the grooves in the wood. But yes probably best to start with moss and take it from there, I'm looking forward to see how it turns out.
 

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Where the wet areas are on the wood you could place Christmas moss - it's especially pretty and dense out of the water on a moist area. I've had lots of success just placing a stem of ludiwigia red or hydrocotyle (any of them) on moss out of the water and they grow emergent and into the water in a very natural way.
 

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Added Christmas moss today to the parts of the wood that are damp- thanks for the suggestion @shangman

Also added in some red root floaters. Under the water the crypts/swords are all melting dramatically, but with enough hints of new growth I'm not worried.

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I'm on the fence about the peace lilly, might be to big. Not sure about an orchid though, I have the impression they can be kind of tricky!
 

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I'm on the fence about the peace lilly, might be to big. Not sure about an orchid though, I have the impression they can be kind of tricky!
Yes I would avoid the peace lilly (like I said before), it would be a shame to hide such a nice piece of wood. A standard Phalaenopsis orchid is pretty hardy as long as you don't get water in the rosette or expose it to low temperatures, being common doesn't make the flowers any less pretty though :) Might be easiest to mount it in a good spot and then mist the roots daily until they reach the water line, after that it will take care of itself and new roots will crawl along the wood anchor it properly.
 

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Personally I like peace lilies and they're easy to divide if they get too big. I do like the overgrown look though, which I appreciate isn't for everyone.
My current favourite is Calathea lancifolia it has a really nice pattern to the top of the leaves, purple underside and very interesting roots.
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Everything is growing. The red root floaters are crazy, but I like them thick as it reduced my worry of jumpers. The left had side usually has a glass cover which is why the escaping swords are a bit wonky.

Should I cut back the sword leaves trying to grow emersed? Will they stop producing under water leaves if I leave them.

I couldn't find neaon blue rasboras locally, so tried ordering them, but they didn't do very well and only a couple made it - not sure if it was the batch or they maybe need a very slow acclimatisation. They had some Corydoras Nanus too which jumped into my basket - haven't seen them before and there doesn't seem much info online but they are lovely. They are small now, but I may move them depending how big they end up/if I end up with apisto eventually. Any experience with them?
 

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That's beautiful tam, real jungle feel and some lovely Corys you've got there.
Should I cut back the sword leaves trying to grow emersed? Will they stop producing under water leaves if I leave them.
It might depend on the species, mine (Echinodorus bleherae?) goes mental once it clears the water surface. It keeps producing a few submerged leaves but the majority are emersed ones, and it quickly shades out anything growing beneath it.
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Mine generally grows twice as tall as the water depth though, so you might be fine once yours get above the LED-light, otherwise I would try to prune it back a bit and see how it responds. Although, if it hasn't flowered yet that might be worth waiting for, at least if you want to get more of them.
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Hi all,
They had some Corydoras Nanus too which jumped into my basket
Nice fish, I've been thinking about getting some of these. They aren't the true C. nanus, but a closely related species from the <"C. elegans lineage"> (line 5.)

Probably either C. napoensis or C. elegans.

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Hi all,

I don't think it is <"E. bleherae"> (E. "bleheri"), it normally doesn't grow many leaves out of the tank and they need <"high humidity if they aren't to crisp">.

Marcel (@zozo) might have <"some suggestions">, his E. "Kleiner Bär" (below) is a <"frequent flowerer">.

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cheers Darrel

Skip through this thread... :)

All tho it's the German language, you could use google translate if interested in the text but I guess looking pics and filter out the names with it already gets you a long way. It's all about growing Echinodorus Emersed in various setups from ponds. tanks to pots indoor and outdoor.
 

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After the photos, I think I'll have to let one of them grow out. The right hand one is Ozelot Tropica, the other was just a lucky dip so I'm not sure the variety. It might be they won't cope - there is glass over that side usually so it will more higher humidity - they may change their minds once I take it off.

Nice fish, I've been thinking about getting some of these. They aren't the true C. nanus, but a closely related species from the <"C. elegans lineage"> (line 5.)
Yes, there seemed to be a few subtly different looking fish labelled as various species online. It will be interesting to see what they look like grown up - they are only 20mm at the moment. They spend quite a lot of time hovering mid water and are very bold, not shy at all and get very excited about snacks.
 

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I swapped out the two Leddy lights for a hanging Fluval 3.0. First time I've used a hanging light and I can see why it's popular - completely changes the view of the top of the tank. Is there is trick to hiding the cable though - that's the only thing that annoys me?!

I also took off the part cover pane and let the swords do their thing - no crispy issues at all. I have buce and anubias right on the water line too. I've decided against any of the bigger emersed plants, but I'm hoping the buce/anubias might work their way a little higher.

I wish I could take better photos - the water is actually lovely - it's tannin stained but not murky at all and the fish look great.

I do get tiny patches of cyano, they don't spread but there are always a couple - mainly on the sand. Also seem to have acquired duckweed - which I'm ineffectively trying to remove.
 

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