Krish's 60cm Fern Mountain

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Krishs Bettas, 1 Jan 2010.

  1. Krishs Bettas

    Krishs Bettas Member

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    Well I am going to start my first "real" planted tank. After about a year of planning and learning how to grow plamts correctly. Thanks all you lot who have helped me. :D

    Equipment:
    60l Float Glass Aquarium 60 x 30 x 35cm
    Hagen T5HO unit with 1x 24w light tube.
    Tetratec ex700
    Hydor Koralia Nano
    Pressurised C02 and Easy Carbo

    Plants:
    Hemianthus Callitrichoides Cuba,
    Cryptocoryne Parva,
    Cryptocoryne Wendtii 'Brown',
    Cryptocoryne Wendtii 'Tropica',
    Cryptocoryne Wendtii 'Mi Oya'
    Anubias Nana,
    Java Fern Narrow,
    Weeping moss,
    Vallisneria nana,
    Anubias Bonsai

    Hardscape:
    Redmoor wood
    Mini Landscape Rocks

    Substrate:
    Tropica Substrate caped with Eco Complete.

    Fish and Inverts:
    Cardinal Tetras
    Rummy Nose Tetras
    Threadfin Rainbowfish
    Otocinclus
    Stiphodon
    Cherry Shrimp
    Amano Shrimp

    Fertilisation:
    EI method and Tropica Plant Nutrion +
     
  2. hydrophyte

    hydrophyte Member

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    That sounds fantastic and that will be a great combination of plants.

    For a tank that size I might suggest that you will do better to select two or three different kinds of fish and have a small group for each.

    t will be great to see some pictures.
     
  3. Krishs Bettas

    Krishs Bettas Member

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    Yeah I was planning to change the fish in the next few months. Also pictures will be up tommorow after the water change.
     
  4. Krishs Bettas

    Krishs Bettas Member

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    Time for the pictures, sorry its been a while I just have not had enough time.

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    The first lot of plants will be coming today or friday. :D
    I am going to replace the narrow fern because its very old (4 years old :woot: ) and its not in the best shape.
    Can any of you give me some tips on taking a full tank shot?
     
  5. Krishs Bettas

    Krishs Bettas Member

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    Re: Krish's 60cm Fern Mountain PLANTED... Half way

    Finally got my plants. Crypts just keeping on melting. The HC has not gown yet. Vallis all melt (easy carbo).
    However there is some new growth on the weeping moss. I need to buy more Crypts to fill in the gaps.
    I am proberly going to reagrange the rocks and the cryts.

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    Please comment and leave feedback.
     
  6. Steve Smith

    Steve Smith Member

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    Looking great Krish. It looks quite dark though. Have you played around with any backgrounds? Persevere with the crypts. If they've melted, they'll grow back in time :)
     
  7. Krishs Bettas

    Krishs Bettas Member

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    Quick Update:

    The crypts have stoped melted hopefuly new leaves will grown back soon.
    The HC is growing horizontal and it's pearling :D
    The java fern narrow is not doing to well because so of the leaves have turned brown because of the lack of light behided the rocks.

    Now the problems. One of the main one is algae the is brown and green spot.
    If anyone knows any tips how to get rid of it?

    Clean up crew:
    6x Cherry Shrimp
    8x Amano Shrimp
    5x Ottos
    8x Freshwater Gobies.
     
  8. Krishs Bettas

    Krishs Bettas Member

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    Time for a update.

    First of all I found out the problem to my HC issue, it was due to the gravel being to big so it could'nt cling to it so I added some "finer" gravel and its seems to be rooting alittle and the other problem was flow so I add a Koralia and this has improved the HC.

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    Full tank shot still needs improving alot. Tips anyone :angelic:

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    The moss on the would is growing well and hopefuly with a harsh trim it should begin to "weep" I hope.....

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    Added some Anubias "Petti" to cover up the bare wood. I can't wait till more leaves grow.

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    Cryts are doing the best I think the have filled in alot. I really like how they change colour from a bright green to a dark green then an amber yellow and then finally a nice rich brown colour. The leaves also change alot from being round-ish to a crinkle looking leaf.

    However the bad think is that the Java Fern Narrow died due to lack of light at the bottem.
    Also I have add 3 Freshwater Neon red Gobies very nice. But I really want them to colour up :twisted:
     
  9. ceg4048

    ceg4048 Expert/Global Moderator Staff Member

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    Highly unlikely that Java fern dies due to lack of light. More likely dies due to poor CO2.

    The following are are all classic symptoms of poor CO2 or at least are clues that you need to do a better job at flow/distribution optimization:

    Cheers,
     
  10. Krishs Bettas

    Krishs Bettas Member

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    Okay time for a small update:

    I have added some Cryptocoryne wendtii "Mi Oya" very colourdul plants the colours varying from Green, to red to brown and I think even Yellow? It adds a nice amount of colour in the tank.

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  11. Celestial

    Celestial Member

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    I like it :D :thumbup: What type of Ikea Cabinet is it and do the fish ever argue?

    Thanks, Celestial.
     
  12. Krishs Bettas

    Krishs Bettas Member

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    The cabbinet... I don't really Know mt parrents brought it for me :lol: and the fish live toghter happily.

    UPDATE:

    I finally got some Stiphodon. Or better known as "Red Neon" There are 3 in the tank and they are all interesting :D

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    The one on the rock is the oldest male and is changing colour to a black/golden colour. The big male is flaring at the young male. There colours get so bright when they do this. There dorsal fin is amazing.

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    They like to "perch" on rocks and the Anubias leaves.

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    There colour changes when you have a flash on/off. The same male.

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    Here's the tank at a different angle.

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    Full tank shot. I think Cardinal Tetras suit this aquascape well.

    Thanks for looking,
    Krish
     
  13. TBRO

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    Love the Stiphs, I think they are one of the coolest new species in the hobby, just wish they were more available. T
     
  14. Krishs Bettas

    Krishs Bettas Member

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    They are really interesting and very colourful. There are only a few shops that sell them thou :( I wish I could import some :lol:
     
  15. bigmatt

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    Looks lovely Krish.
    Quick note on the livestock - your Cherry shrimp and Rams may not mix so well, and the rams will definitely munch on any young shrimp. The Amanos should be fine as they are much bigger.
    I had problems with my snowball shrimp and Rams in a heavily planted 200l so thought i best mention it!
    Hope this helps!
    Matt
     
  16. Krishs Bettas

    Krishs Bettas Member

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    Thanks for that I am now not going to put Rams in. I like cherrys too much.

    QUESTION: I brought the Cradinals Tetras on Sunday. I have have lost at least half of the :(
    Does anyone know why they dies off I need help quick.
     
  17. Ajm200

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    Re: Krish's 60cm Fern Mountain HELP fish dieing...

    Are there any obvious signs of disease?

    If not, they can be very sensitive to ammonia and nitrite. If you have added a lot in one go, the filter may be going through a cycle and there may be a fair bit of ammonia the water. Can you do a test? If ammonia is present you may need reduce the lighting too as the ammonia will encourage algae.

    Make sure you've got all the dead fish out, one hidden under the plants will only add to your problems. Remove any damaged/melting plant leaves as these will also leach ammonia as they rot. Do some daily water changes for a couple of weeks, cut right back on feeding the fish (once every 3 days) until thing settle down.
     
  18. Krishs Bettas

    Krishs Bettas Member

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    Re: Krish's 60cm Fern Mountain HELP fish dieing...

    Just did a water test:

    PH 7
    Ammonia 0
    Nirtites 0

    I did add 15 at one time so that maybe a problem. Thanks for the advice.
    Hopefull next time they won't die
     
  19. Krishs Bettas

    Krishs Bettas Member

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    Re: Krish's 60L Fern Mountain

    UPDATE:

    Found out the fish problem it was because I added to many fish at one time :bored: .
    Lesson learnt.

    Before
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    and
    After
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    Some of the fish, I got some otto's a week ago and as soon as I brought them with in a day they cleaned up my tank of the brown algae 5 fish cleaned a a tank in a day thats craxy :lol: .

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    I also got a pair of threadfin rainbowfish I'm planning to get some more soon. There are great but hard to get a photo of them.

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    Here is some of the Neon Gobies:

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    They are changing colour as they are getting older from a browny colour to a black/gold colour.
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    The same male grazzing on the ground.
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    Thanks for looking. :D
     
  20. alip01

    alip01 Member

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    The tanks's looking good, however I think that there may be too many fish in the tank. A 60l tank with those dimensions should only have around 60cm of fully grown fish, so as they grow you may encounter problems with their health and algae due to the heavy bioload!

    Posted with TouchBB on my iPod touch
     

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