Man vs Scape

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  1. David Edwards

    David Edwards Member

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    BE1A11A7-D0DF-4E06-8A7D-2F1049737D47.jpeg New scape in the design phase

    Tank 90 x45 x45

    Looking to create quite a low maintenance Iwagumi type tank like the green aqua walk around tank.

    First try at hardscape with photo attached


    Looking at using hydropiper in foreground and sides leading into dwarf harirgrass intersperses with s repens and possibly a short step plant on hill.

    Any feedback appreciated.
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  2. Siege

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    A couple of thoughts (hopefully helpful :))

    - hill looks a little forced. Gentle slope going upto a mound will look more natural.

    - hill holding the soil up is skewing the stones making them look unnatural. Particularly the top right one (being placed on its end makes it look unnatural even more).
    Sort out the hill using a set square or other flat object tool then place the stones,

    - too many similar sized stones, google rules of iwagumi to give you an idea/feel.

    - have you a pic of scape that you are trying to replicate?

    S.
     
  3. TBRO

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    I know the tank you mean from Greenaqua. Just bear in mind it’s a quite different shape, tall and square.

    If that’s what you are going for, I think you inevitably will have a steep slope. Plants will soften this. I like what you’ve done so far, perhaps see what it looks like without the tallest rock?

    T


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  4. David Edwards

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    5E55F5C5-9636-47A9-97E6-D767A93EA079.jpeg Thanks Seige and TBRO.

    Yes it is the 90 x 90 x 45 tank from Greenaqua. I now appreciate that there is not the depth of that tank in mine which is making the mountain difficult to re create and a little too central on my first attempt (no photos).

    Have re arranged a couple of stones photo below. Thanks.

    David
     
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  5. TBRO

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    Much better, IMO


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  6. David Edwards

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    Thanks

    One other thought was to bank the soil on the left hand side and then lay the rock work around that slope.
     
  7. TBRO

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    What rock are you using?

    I like the second scape, only bit I don’t like is the banking rock just right of centre. You could get plants or moss to “cut” in half like this:

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  8. David Edwards

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    Some other possibilities
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  9. Keith GH

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    David

    Which Scape are you working on?

    At the moment I would remove all of the RH side reason all I can see is several rocks very carefully positioned making it completely uninteresting.

    The LH side I would concentrate on one scape I thing No1 has the best possibilities.
    At the moment the back corner is lacking height. By increasing the height it will give you a far better eye flow.

    Keith:wave::wave:
     
  10. David Edwards

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    More options
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    Opinions much appreciated guys.
     
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  11. Keith GH

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    David

    No6 LH side very good. It's the RH side again, sloping too much to the left and the small stones carefully placed around the base.

    Keith:wave::wave:
     
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  12. alto

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    If you like that mountain effect shown in the Green Aqua tank, it’s worth watching the set up video - which follows a couple of tanks ... note how the rock scapes are built upon rock rather than just heaped soil - obviously this requires rather more stone but is the trick to that more natural appearance - soil is then added as the scape develops

    Of course these guys tend to make an amazing stone scape just as they go along ... lots of practice and great selection of stones to choose from (also they’re not trying to create (serious) contest scapes in the video content)

    Green Aqua Live Event

    As you’re scaping directly in your tank with Aqua Soil, take care not to crush or create too much fine powder
     
  13. Barbara Turner

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    I like no 1and no2 I would possibly move the small rocks in the centre to the right leaving you a path through the centre.
     
  14. David Edwards

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    Thanks for everyone’s feedback thus far. I do like the green aqua scape and had watched the link and just not sure it is easily replicated in the tank dimensions I have? Also I think that the rock layout alone without grown in plants look uninspiring and would come into its own when planted.

    Fundamentally this will be an Iwagumi and I’m conscious that the rock layout needs to be the focus.

    I’ve had another couple of attemps as photos and grateful for commnents. I finishing bows it’s almost 1 in the morning and I’ve just smashed the lily pipe with a rock! It was no doubt an accident waiting to happen. Like the look of the stainless steel pipes - anybody have experience of those? I see that they just look like a jet outflow and may not give the same style of circulation as a lily pipe.

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  15. Keith GH

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  16. David Edwards

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    Ok guys I have decided on a layout. Will upload a photo later as its not one listed above. As this is going to be an Iwagumi style with lots of low growing foreground plants do you think it’s a good plan to add a thin layer of the powder type substrate on top of the aqua soil? This is the prodibio substrate. Also views on the dry start method? Thanks David
     
  17. Matt @ ScapeEasy

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    The smaller grain size of aquasoil will certainly be easier to plant carpeting plants in...
     
  18. David Edwards

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    Small update.

    Eventually decided upon a hardscape layout as per photo attached.

    Planted up on Wednesday just gone.

    Foreground Monte Carlo and dwarf hairgrass.

    Some s repens on right to frame rocks.

    Hydrophila Araguaia on left with Rotala h’ra at rear to provide a splash of colour.


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  19. Nubias

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    Looking great David, can’t wait to see this grow in
     
  20. David Edwards

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