I wanted to mention the meeting we had with Roy Devani Director of Unipac. A very nice and down to earth guy. We went through to their head office and warehouse to rescape their aquarium they have in the public waiting area. We were basically doing this to say thanks to Roy and pay back a favor for all the hard scape ie rocks wood and gravel he has kindly given to us for the festival of fish keeping. We also filled Roy in on what we thought of his product range from artificial rocks ( great for Malawi set ups ) through to what our thoughts were about the wood he can supply. He supplies many wholes sale's, but as we ( Ukpas ) are concerned, not enough, considering how extensive the range of rocks and interesting gravels and sands he provides. We gave Roy some feedback about the cut ends on Unipacs wood, and he is looking into changing the appearance of the woods cut ends, ie braking them or cutting them on an angle.Also we talked about planted substrates. He seems very interested to hear about this new hobby ( nature aquarium ) in the UK, obviously this could open a market for him. This mutual back scratching seems to be one step forward to promoting the hobby to Uk traders and raising the awareness of what UK aquascapers want. At the same time we are helping and supporting UK trade which can only be a good thing. One small step for plant, one giant leap for plant kind! We will be keeping in touch with Roy to give him feed back and to encourage him to help us push this side of our hobby forward. I should say, when at your local fish shop, please ask them about stocking Unipacs range of hardscape materials they offer. Heres some pictures of the event. The Gravel is Unipacs own complete substrate. We need to look into this product some more to see how it fairs for planted aquaria. The rock are amazing. They are called spaghetti rock, very interesting shapes and color. Its hard to say what they are made from, they are a natural rock but from what part of the world we are unsure. This is just one of many interesting rocks Unipac supply. These rocks were very easy to arange, that was my part done ) Dan filling the tank. Were were limited by the plants we had, hence the sparce appreance, i think Dan will top them up at some point, he only lives around the corner. Cheers, Graeme.