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They can be a challenge because they are so intelligent , one before Jess called Sophie was a collie cross totally loyal. Jess is a real character and always needs something to do like his day job should be with sheep. I watched the couple of hours documentary about Inuit people(BBC4) herding reindeer in Arctic conditions and the Border Collie is used as only one of two breeds able to handle the conditions
 
Our first dog was a collie cross springer spaniel. She didn't need any training because she instinctively knew what to do. She would sit at the boundary of our house and road and not step an inch over even though we didn't have a gate.
 
It is funny how they seem to have those instincts without training. Our Collie cross would always get a bit agitated if the family were in different rooms - then when once we were all in the same room for a meal , or to watch TV etc, she would settle, and would lie across the door threshold to the room so she could make sure the 'flock' was all in one place 😅
 
My collie cross puppies. The white one is Echo and the black one is Calypso. 6 month old sisters.
 

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When I take them for a walk they are too busy herding me to run off but Calypso likes me to throw the largest branch I can then she carries it for as long as she can while Echo will go for a swim in the lake just up the path.
 
Beautiful dogs @GreggZ if I may inquire are these what we brits refer to as Amstaffs?
Thanks. They are both Pitbull mixes. The white one is likely American Pit Bull Terrier, the dark one is mixed with something not sure what. They are both "blues" so they have the unique grey color in them. Best two dogs I ever had. Personally plus and just big lap dogs. Here's a better pic of each.
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Best two dogs I ever had
I've owned staffs and bull terriers and mixtures of the two. Back in the ninetys these breeds much like bit bulls attracted so much bad attention which was totally unfair. Imo they are extremely loving and gentle dogs. Here's Hugo my current dog in his prime, 35 kilos of devil dog and miley the staffy loving my daughter.

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