Snails Controversy

Discussion in 'Inverts' started by daniel19831123, 5 Jan 2008.

  1. daniel19831123

    daniel19831123 Member

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    Initially I bought some apple snail from snailshop and it says on the webpage that the snail only consume dead plant matter and algae. But recently I've been finding lots of damage leaves in my tank. Some looks as if it's being strip down to it's centre vein. So I did a search on yahoo and wahlaa loads of forum actually says that apple snails is notorious for eating live plants and producing lots and lots of excrement contaminating the tank and they are only moderate algae eater.... i.e not the best snail to have in a planted aquaria.

    I'm now looking to buy some nerite zebra or olive snails as they seemed to have a good review on a lot of the webpage. Mostly claimed that it will clean the glass so well it looks as if it's just been scraped using an algae scraper. Does anyone have any experience on this? I'm having some GDA problem in my tank and maybe a little GSA. Don't want to spent another 10 quid just to regret it further down the line.

    Anyone with any snail experience would be appreciated.
     
  2. Themuleous

    Themuleous Member

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    I have two nerites in my work tank and I can honestly say it looks as if Ive cleaned the glass with a scraper, the two of them keep it near enough spotless. Worth every penny if you don't have loaches in the tank.

    Sam
     
  3. daniel19831123

    daniel19831123 Member

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    hmm one positive score to nerite! does the pH of the water needs to be high? I've got high kH and hardness but pH below 7...
     
  4. Arana

    Arana Member

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    i have the same sort of water paramaters and my 3 tigers ae thriving, an essential pat of any cleanup crew i'd` say :D they're awsome :D
     
  5. daniel19831123

    daniel19831123 Member

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    Brilliant now all I need to do is get rid of my apple snails and kill all my small snails before buying them nerite! I was thinking of lowering the pH by injecting loads of CO2 into the tank gradually. They should not live if the pH is 6 or slightly below. The problem is that I don't have a pH meter.... tried leaving my CO" on for the whole night at 1 bubles every 4-5 seconds but still the snail survive the next day..... Any way to get rid of them once and for all? I'm not adding any loaches in the tank as I'm already having enough difficulty keeping HC rooted in my substrate. lol
     
  6. Garuf

    Garuf Member

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    Get a dwarf puffer, he'll finish your snails off.
     
  7. daniel19831123

    daniel19831123 Member

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    hmmm can't do that too.... Got baby shrimp in my tank. lol
     
  8. Garuf

    Garuf Member

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    :(, ask if you can borrow a clown loach for a week? :p
     
  9. daniel19831123

    daniel19831123 Member

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    maybe I should start softening my water and turn the ph even lower.... without calcium and with low pH I'm pretty sure they will die :p eveil grin hehehe
     
  10. Garuf

    Garuf Member

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    You say that but I have super low ph in my 10 gallon and I still see loads of snails, It just means they stay small as far as I can tell.
     
  11. Ray

    Ray Member

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    Hand removal, I told the kids to take them out, left the long tweezers by the tank and now there are none :D

    They were squemish about killing them though - I had to do that...
     
  12. johnny70

    johnny70 Member

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    send me your apple snails if you want rid I can rehome them easily :)

    JOHNNY
     
  13. daniel19831123

    daniel19831123 Member

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    Will do. If there is any more plant damage, I will definitely send them away.
     
  14. Lisa_Perry75

    Lisa_Perry75 Member

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    Owwww, but I love my appleys... I bought them under the impression the don't eat live plant matter either... They do lick the glass clean of algae though.

    I thought my plants were just dying...
     
  15. daniel19831123

    daniel19831123 Member

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    now that I've turned the CO" up the plant growth has speed up a lot and the damage of the plant done by the apple snail is kind negligible as there is other plant matter and loads of fish food floating around in the tank.They lick the glass alright but they don't suck on it hard enough lol. They never take the GSA or GDA off the glass. I ended up having to remove them manually... Just bought 2 nerite and see if they will suck well on the glass!
     
  16. Lisa_Perry75

    Lisa_Perry75 Member

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    Lol yeah I do have several bumblebee nerites, maybe its them... Dunno, everytime I see them they are giving each other piggyback rides :wideyed: :lol:
     
  17. daniel19831123

    daniel19831123 Member

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    did you buy bumblebees nerite from phil at gogosnail? He's a nice bloke. Used to get some shrimp from him. Just bought some zebra nerite. Will be getting them on tuesday.
     
  18. Lisa_Perry75

    Lisa_Perry75 Member

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    No, the shop I used to work at had some in... I got a really good deal as they didn't really know what they were, about 50p each... Plus I could pick out all the brightest ones!
     

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