Spare Plant Tank

Discussion in 'Plant Help' started by johnny70, 13 Jul 2008.

  1. johnny70

    johnny70 Member

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    Hi have a spare AquaOne AR620, sat doing nothing in the garage, I'm thinking of setting it up to hold and grow on the many plants and cuttings I take, now, it has a built in trickle filter and I will add some powerheads for flow, lighting is built in PC, not sure of the size but there won't be any high light plants in there:) what sort of temp can I get away with for setting the heater too? I don't want the expense of heating the water constantly if I can set lower. 18/20c????

    Will be dosing my homemade mix of ferts and easycarbo, no co2.

    Any thoughts?

    Need a nutrient rich substrate was thinking of tetra plantcomplete and silica sand

    Any comments welcome, did I miss something

    JOHNNY
     
  2. Garuf

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    I can't really help but If I were you I would approach it as a hi-tech green house, using clay pots holding AS, co2 kept high good light and a pair of internal filters. I've seen Malaysian aquascapers do it like this as a store for rare plants and as a way of keeping costs low and as far as I can tell it works really well.
     
  3. johnny70

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    another question,

    if i have the lights on overnight when the electricity is cheaper is this going to muck up the growth of the plants?
     
  4. Garuf

    Garuf Member

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    Not at all, provided they don't receive any natural light during the day. Infact, my tank's lights don't go off until 2am anyway and my growth is always good. Just consider it as a normal planted tank but without the hardscape. Like all planted tanks as long as you're as strict with your maintenance as you would your normal tank you'll be fine!
     
  5. johnny70

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    cheers for the replies:)

    JOHNNY
     
  6. Garuf

    Garuf Member

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    Hell, I tell you what, I'm inspired...
    Loads of light, loads of co2 and ferts... Plant harvesting time!
     
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  8. Dan Crawford

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    Hiya mate, as long as the plants get the same amout of light at the same time of day every day then they will be fine.

    Dunno if i'd bother potting them, roots often get damaged when removing the rockwool so i'd just have them growing in a decent substrate and the roots will be far greater and give the plants a better start. If your thinking about not having a substrate then go for the pots but it wouldn't be my choice. I suppose if dose heavily enough with water column fertaliser the you'll be ok. You could have "cups" full of a decent substrate and pot them in there, this would allow good growth and the ability to move them around etc. I've used shot glasses for single species before and it worked well. Infact i grew a tiger lotus this way and it effectively dwarfed the plant and it essentially transformed it into a nano plant ;)
     
  9. johnny70

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    Thanks Dan, my thinking behind the Rockwool was one the roots are protected and when I uproot to re plant then they wont be damaged or tangled

    JOHNNY
     
  10. Dan Crawford

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    I'd just pull them out the substrate, time the roots to an inch long and re-plant, happy days.
     
  11. Ed Seeley

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    You could also just put Aquasoil into those mesh pots to allow the water to flow and the roots will bond into the substrate. If you needed larger pots you could use the small mesh pond pots too.
     
  12. johnny70

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    Yes thats another possible solution, I have a ton of old Tropica pots I can use too, will need to work out what the cheapest way to fill them is, I'm thinking pond compost atm

    JOHNNY
     
  13. johnny70

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    I will be sorting this out soon :D going to go with a pond compost and sand to grow them on in, nice and nutritious for them.

    No I want to be doing as little as possible with the tank as regards to dosing ferts, can I add just once a week? in dry salt form instead of already prepared mixes? I wasn't planning co2(yet) but if I did i could run co2 24hrs a day without worrying as there will be no fish in there. what sort of setup would I need? FE setup ? just a dual reg, and a diffuser? advice welcome

    JOHNNY
     
  14. johnny70

    johnny70 Member

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    anyone :? :? :? :? :?
     
  15. aaronnorth

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    CO2 will be fine running 24/7, just seems a waste IMO. Run it high (yellow DC)

    for the setup you have lited that would be fine, you need some CO2 line, and needle valve aswell ;)


    not sure about the dosing, if you have low lighting then not as much fert is needed so it might be ok - experiment!
     
  16. Dan Crawford

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    Co2 2 is a definite pal, plants need carbon. One big dose of ferts once a week might be ok, there's nothing better than little and often though IMO. A dual reg from Aquatic Magic would do the trick and it has a solenoid if you require one, i run 24/7 with fish and it's fine, the cost of FE's is small so i don't mind the "wastage"

    HTH

    Dan
     
  17. johnny70

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    ok thanks chaps, I wanted it to be as easy as possible, so I can just sort out once a week as it will be away from the rest of my tanks.

    cheers
    JOHNNY
     
  18. Dan Crawford

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    Then an FE with a solenoid and a big once a week dosing is the only way, not ideal IMO but it'll still work.
     
  19. johnny70

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    Hmmm.... well if I have to dose everyday so be it :) See how LondonDragon gets on with the auto feeder that may be a way to go. just a cheap reg and FE to find then ;)

    JOHNNY
     
  20. Dan Crawford

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    hhhhmmmmmm, wonder who has FE's? ;)
     

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