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The Falls - DOOA Wall 60

It's only the success with the Lilly pond that I somewhat doubt. I had a conversation with Carlos Maglenda who is a Lilly specialist at Kew Gardens and credited with saving a Rwandan Lilly that was going extinct. He doubted the success with getting a Lilly to flower with lacking light. I felt inclined to believe Carlos, but I still plan on giving an indoor Lilly a go myself.

When I was looking for a way to explain his success, I just thought that he could be misleading with his IG. I've just sent him a dm about the conditions of his success, which I should have done earlier before posting what I have. I'll post some updates if I get a reply.
 
I've had a conversation with James and he confirmed that his success was achieved without sunlight using exclusively ikea grow light LEDs. He also has lilies in 4 different aquariums. Some of my confusion over wether they were updates or throwbacks shows that they were all updates. In some I saw no lily leaves which transpires was because of him trimming back to move in some wood and he said they grew back well.

Therefore I'd like to retract my comment and add that I'll hopefully be trying a Lilly pond around spring time. I would also like to add that again our hobby proves not to be a science and we should all remain humble in this knowledge.
 
Can anyone suggest clean up crew for this one. I was hoping to keep some shrimp but I’m not sure they are compatible with the Blackwater conditions.

Checked the parameters pH 5.5, and basically nothing else (Vry low KH/GH), a trace of nitrate. Probably not ideal for shrimp or nerites?


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@CooKieS wanted to know how loud it is, I realize my house is a pretty noisy place till everyone has gone to bed! Quick vid with sound. Basically just the noise of the filter. Purigen has worked well on the tannin




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Got some nice emergant moss growing in my propagator, after using yoghurt method.

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Got the vivarium mister on a timer now, 10 mins every 2 hours (every hour when lights on).

Got a pretty good idea of lava rock hard scape.

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Pretty much ready to get this one scaped, hopefully S-Day on 2nd Jan....


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Very interesting to see this tank coming together, I keep wondering about doing a DIY version.
Are the plants grown in a course filter foam? Something like 15ppi?
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Hi Barbara, yes I think the pads are just coarse filter foam. It’s tricky to find in black and in narrow pads (they are only about 1 cm thick).

Mostly just moss on the wall itself so far, obviously the Hydrocotyle as well. I’m trying some Pinitifada. ADA literature suggests most plants can grow on the wall.

Just hoping the humidity is high enough. I would prefer to avoid a lid but that would be an obvious solution. Think a dimmer for the light would also help. Hopefully with time the plants will harden off, just keep misting in the meantime.

Already have some stowaway shrimp that came in the moss from my main tank. Stock wise was thinking of trying Scarlet Badis and/or Sundario Axelrodi “blue”. T


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quick videos showing the planted tank. Some more plants arriving next week, including some Anubis “mini mini” for the shady underwater areas and Hydrocotyle Verticla for the back wall.





Thanks T


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Added a couple of Badis that I saw at LFS, they only had two. Really charming little fish. They seem to appreciate all the roots and overhangs + the numerous daphnia in there.

Funny they go for some daphnia which are simply too big to get in their mouth, think all but the tiniest shrimp will be OK!

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Hi
One of my LFS keeps almost constant suply of Baddis and they are always in little betta trio with shrimp arround them.
Regards Konsa
 
Cool, I would like to find a female but I’ve heard they are rare in the trade.

I read they are “micro predators” with “micro“ being the operative word!

Was a bit worried when I asked the shop what they had been eating and they said crushed flake. Surprised, I asked if they had been taking the flake. They said they weren’t sure as they just left them too it... In any case they seem to feed on live daphnia, need to try them on frozen.


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From what I understand (though I've never kept them!) you are probably best sticking with the two males in a tank that size because I believe they can be territorial... presumably ading females would be ok but I assume more than one... worth a little research...
 
Thanks Matt, one of them is quite bright coloured and bold, the other is much duller and more shy. It’s not impossible that the dull one is female. More likely a sub dominant male (Rachel O’Leary’s video on them was good).

Either way there has been no violence. Should be a nice environment for them. Much like a shallow river bank they would inhabit in the wild. T


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Coming along quite well, reducing the brightness of the twinstar helps not burn the plants. Still some transitioning going on but everything grows. I even have some Java fern grow (still too tiny to get a photo).

The upper plastic trough requires some cleaning, especially the holes get blocked (pipe cleaner works well). Some water top ups but otherwise low maintenance.

Adding 2 ml of TNC complete a day. Think I might need more, some chlorosis on the Hydrocotyle tripartita?

Badis happy, getting daphnia from my rain butt. Going to look for some Rocket Killie fish....

Thanks for looking. T

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Little stunners, how is there temperament with other fish/shrimp?
Thanks
Ady
 
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