Tonys 'Nano Rouge' 14L

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  1. Tony Swinney

    Tony Swinney Member

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    Hi all

    Whilst waiting for my new tank to arrive , I thought I'd try a little nano for my desk at work. So this is really my first attempt at a "scape" :wideyed:

    Its a 12"x10"x8", 14l optiwhite from AE, and will run an eheim 2026 (turned right down 8) ).

    As the title suggests its going to have a red theme, with petrified wood, some red flaura and some cherry shrimps. As a contrast I'll have some dark green flora - probably moss for the shrimp. I'm struggling on the foreground at the moment, as I dont know of any red carpeting plants :?: I also have some juvenile black corys which will go in here until they grow up :)

    Anyhows, that can be worked out as we go ! Here is the inital setup, having smashed up some petrified wood bits, and had a play :D

    NanoRouge_3.jpg

    NanoRouge_4.jpg

    As said at the start I'm a first time "scaper" so all thoughts, comments and criticisms are welcome - I need all the help I can get :lol:

    Cheers

    Tony

    Spec

    Tank: 12"x10"x8", 14litre
    Filter: Eheim 2026 (running as slowly as possible :D )
    Heater: Hydor 200w inline
    Lighting: 18w Superfish
    Glassware: Cal Aqua 12mm
    Substrate: EcoComplete & Tropica TPN+ capsules
    Ferts: Tropica TPN+
    CO2: FE injection, AE nano diffuser, EasyCarbo
    Plants: Eleocharis Acicularis, Pogostemon Helferi, HC
    Inhabitants: Cherry Shrimp, Baby Black Corys
     
  2. samc

    samc Member

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    Re: Nano Rouge

    looks good to me the larger piece on the left seems abit thin but you could turn it slighly but that isnt a problem really
     
  3. LondonDragon

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    Re: Nano Rouge

    Good start Tony, looking forward to seeing it planted :)
    I wonder what Jeremy would say about the glassware in this tank ;) looks pretty damn good to me ;)
    Keep us posted mate.
     
  4. samc

    samc Member

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    yer i was just thinking that glassware looks good :lol: where u get it from?
     
  5. George Farmer

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    Hi Tony

    I love the stone - great texture and colour and a break from the usual. Super glassware too!

    I'm no expert on Iwagumi but if it were me I'd consider re-positioning your largest rock (master stone) so it's roughly 1/3 or 2/3 across the length of the tank, and bring it forward a touch. Currently it's sitting over to the right and in the background.

    Then re-position the smaller supporting stones around the master stone. Consider the grain running through the rocks so it all flows naturally, like you have done already.

    I would also think about breaking up the tall thin piece on the left into two pieces, making five pieces altogether. Currently, due to its similar height to the master stone, it is competing for the viewer's attention and it's slender dimensions are at odds with the stones to the right. Breaking this into two pieces would help significantly, I feel.

    All this said, your current layout does look good and is a superb first time effort. Well done!
     
  6. Tony Swinney

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    Re: Nano Rouge

    Thanks chaps - the glassware is just temporary until my Eheim "Monster Installation Set 38" arrives :lol: (its CalAqua from AE)

    Thanks for the critique George - I'm going to play around again today, so might well make the tall left hand piece smaller. I wasnt really happy with 4 pieces, but 5 looked a bit too busy, and 3 a bit sparse, so shortening that tall one might sort it ! I'd really like mainly red plants in here, but all the reds I can find are tall, so I'm undecided which way to go at the minute - red and tall, or closer to iwagumi !

    I might place some plants in there this morning to see how it will look.

    Cheers
    Tony

    (Tank specs now added to the first post)
     
  7. Steve Smith

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    Re: Nano Rouge

    Hey Tony, looking good :)

    Can I ask, what light is that? LED based desk lamp? Some info on it would be great!

    Cheers

    Steve.
     
  8. Tony Swinney

    Tony Swinney Member

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    Hi Steve

    The lamp is a 35w tungsten light, unfortunately not LED, but its all I have at the minute (its my desk lamp at work :) ). Its this one from Habitat:
    http://www.habitat.co.uk/fcp/product/browse/Desk-clamp/968408

    I'm not sure if the tungsten light will be too warm for plant growth though (and at 35w its a tad powerful for a 14l tank - over 8wpg :wideyed: ) , so if I can find a nice LED I'll change it.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
  9. Dan Crawford

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    Re: Nano Rouge

    Nice work mate!
    If it were me i'd try and stick to the rule of odd numbers and do something like this?
    NanoRouge_5.jpg
    Just my 2 pence worth.
     
  10. Re: Nano Rouge

    exactly what i was going to suggest, but without doing the graphic design to illustrate. :D

    Best Regards,

    John
     
  11. Mark Evans

    Mark Evans Expert

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    Re: Nano Rouge

    if thats to work, you may need the middle stone behind the main stone.
    or

    facing the main stone.

    or

    lay the left stone flat, left of the main stone with the middle stone behind the main stone.

    not my ideas BTW, just what I've observed amano do with 3 stones.

    it's a shame you cant post images, but i got 3 or 4 aqua journals visually explaining what i mean. aqua journal 159 dec 08 to be precise

    as George said, move the whole thing over to fall in line with the rule of thirds.

    3,5,7 works even numbers don't work! but remember on larger scapes dont count backbone stones as part of your odd numbers.

    hey, i might be utterly wrong though
     
  12. Tony Swinney

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    Thanks Mark, and Dan and John !

    :lol:

    Luckily, the only issue I own is that one ! Obviously I didnt pay enough attention to it when I read it :lol:

    All good advice, so I'm off to the magazine rack now, and then I'll have a play - more photos later.

    Cheers

    Tony :D
     
  13. Tony Swinney

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    Blimey - talk about going round in circles :lol: :lol: :lol:

    After alot of chiseling, smashing, positioning, and general fiddling, not only does my wife think I've lost the plot, but I've arrived at a new layout, which I like :D

    I went through this one ('scuse the murky waters) with 3 rocks :

    NanoRouge_5.jpg

    then went around a few more circles, and got to this one, with 5 rocks :

    NanoRouge_6.jpg

    Which I think I prefer. That said I cant see the (petrified) wood for the trees now , so I'm off to build the bathroom instead :lol: I'll come back to this later on with fresh eyes :

    NanoRouge_7.jpg

    As always, please let me know what you reckon :D

    Tony
     
  14. fish.com1

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    I prefer the second arrangement. But i think the smallest stone at the front left corner should maybe be brought further right a touch. Loking great anyway the textures work well and i like how the stones lean from right to left. Any thoughts on plants?
     
  15. George Farmer

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    Consider moving the largest rock more towards the centre (1/3 or 2/3) with the other four supporting it.

    The main rock is generally best positioned in accordance with the golden ratio which is almost the same as the rule of thirds. This makes a great tool for aquascaping, although rules can be broken too, of course...

    With them all in a line, from biggest to smallest, it looks too artificial to my eye.

    Looking very good still, despite my critique.
     
  16. Tony Swinney

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    Thanks again George - off to play with it again now :D

    I have a natural tendancy for geometric symmetry, which doesnt help ! A single piece of redmoor root is alot easier :lol:

    Tony
     
  17. Mark Evans

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    it's something we all fall into. for a tank that size, i'd use just 3 bits. and allow the planting to add interest. but then thats me. :D
     
  18. Tony Swinney

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    And thats the next tricky bit :wideyed: I havent a clue about which plants to put in there ! My initial idea was to have this a predominantly red tank, using red plants, but I'm struggling to find small low level red plants, they all seem to be tall stems. Anyone have any suggestions ?

    I've got some really nice red Alternanthera Cardinalis , but its going to be too tall and big for this tank.

    Maybe I should go with greens instead, and let the rocks / fish provide the reds. :?

    Tony
     
  19. Tony Swinney

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    Re: Tonsers Nano Rouge

    Further tinkering has led me to this layout:

    NanoRouge_8.jpg

    which I'm really liking :D

    I think this will be my starting point, as I reckon I could lose a couple of rocks, and reduce it to 3 rocks later on if I find it needs it (at least thats got to be easier than adding them later :lol: )

    Its tricky when I dont have a planting plan, to know what space I'm going to need, so this way I can play around as I go. Live and learn etc...

    Plant recommendations / scape crits always welcome, thanks.

    Tony
     
  20. mr. luke

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    I would slant the master stone to the right (creating tension, and it is almost vertical) but i like it :D
     

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