I have opened this thread so that the one in the plants forum doesn`t become too bogged down. I have a few ideas going around my head, which I have proposed to Jim. He seems quite keen on something along the lines of a practical demo on setting up a planted tank. We should be able to rustle up a pretty big, captive audience. The thing to do is to decide on some dates for a UKAPS visit, along with accommodation arrangements. Consider this to be the new alcohol tasting in the N.W. thread. dave.