Which tank for a Betta?

Richard40

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If you want to add other fish, this gets my vote :)

And it’s a versatile tank that could be put to many uses
(I finally picked up a 60P last year and it’s an awesome scape box)
What other fish? Oto’s, kuhli loaches maybe something cardinals? With amano, nerites also
 

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Alto, would you use an external filter for this type of tank with lily pipes? Just don’t want the flow causing problems for the Betta. Ideally I’d add a kuhli loach, some amanos, Otocinclus and maybe a shoaling fish to keep the Beta active.
Also, what lighting? Twinstar 600S? Won’t have CO2 so I’d choose easy care plants.
I’d use a spin pipe rather than a lily re Betta
In terms of Betta activity, a healthy Betta should be fairly active (though the plakat lines HMPK seem more active), I’d suggest buying any Bettas through a specialist shop (which usually deals directly with breeders and more likely to invest in fish health/reputable farms), choose a juvenile fish as age is more easily determined

(IME it’s more difficult to find well bred crown/feather tail Bettas (good conformation, strong fin rays etc))

For shoaling fish, choose fish that are less nippy - while it’s a generalization, rasboras tend to be less interested in flowing Betta fins than tetras

As you’re not planning to add CO2, I’d choose lower light (Twinstar E rather than S) - I’d love to see ONF do 45cm and 60cm versions of their flat nano that stayed within a more moderate budget and offered moderate light intensity while retaining that same great spectrum

George Farmer has just released a video for the Oase StyleLine 85 which is non-CO2 and has amazing growth after only a couple weeks (I suspect the frequent water changes contribute re tap often has higher level dissolved gases (all those bubbles post water change) likely including CO2)
 

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I’ll look into the spin pipe, I do need a skimmer though as I find I get a lot of scum on the surface of my other tank and it would be in the same room. Not sure if you can just buy the skimmer separately?
I’ve decided on the Twinstar E. I’ve joined a couple of breeder pages like Betta Splendens and Chenna Betta.
Is that any rasboras? How many would you have in a 60litre? My plan is 5 Oto’s, 3 kuhli loach and a shoal.
Lastly, I was going to buy Manzanita wood, but worried the Betta could get caught on this when swimming. Thoughts?
 

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I’ve seen Bettas in lfs tanks with relatively large numbers of various tetras and rasboras - while this often seems a nicer Betta lifestyle than those small containers, many of these Bettas have significant fin damage or remain very still (or hidden)

Obviously in a home tank, much smaller numbers of shoaling fish will be present but make sure to set up hardscape so that your Betta has numerous potential hiding spots/low flow areas - gnarled manzanita wood (long smooth curves rather than potentially sharp twigs or dense twigs that may catch trailing fins), smooth/rounded stones etc
 

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They’ll likely do well (especially once they fill in) - just watch out for Betta doing any nighttime hunting


(I had an HMPK in a 60 x 45 x 55cm (tall) heavily planted aquarium, and thought my clown killifish were somehow jumping (yummy Cat Midnight Snack), only to see Mr Betta stealthily approach one night, and SLURP :eek: :eek: :eek: )
 

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Will do, think I’d introduce Oto’s and Kuhli loaches first, then the rasboras and then the Betta last.

Can’t seem to find any spin pipes in UK available.
 

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Just remember that kuhli loaches get pretty substantial and will tunnel whenever they feel so inclined
 

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Warning some of the UK specialist sellers do not buy quality stock and buy from various sources each shipment and yes in my opinion sell pet grade pretty fish and you have no idea of the genetics

So why not buy from an Asian breeder direct and have it imported
There’s an article about it here
www.thebettabox.uk/transhipping

Flow in an aquarium is important for the plants how you distribute it that counts for the betta

You have also to take into account that virtually all Male bettas have been raised in small bottles 500 ml or less so they are not fit enough to go into a deep tank and have to keep swimming to the surface to breath
So ensure there are places near or at the surface for it to rest


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