YAR180 (Yet Another Rio 180).

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  1. Steve Smith

    Steve Smith Member

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    After thinking it through I decided to abandon the 4ft tank idea and go back to my Rio 180, as I prefer the proportions and it looks a little nicer. Glass is in similar condition to the 4ft so no difference there.

    Anyhow. This is still a work in progress. I think I've got the hard scape/substrate sorted and layed out. Just spent the last hour or so doing this :)

    So far, the definates are:

    Tropica plant substrate
    Unipac Zambezi sand on top
    large chunk of wood for hardscape

    Definate plants so far are:

    Eleocharis Acicularis
    Eleocharis Vivipara
    Blyxia Japonica

    Other hardware:
    Tetratec EX1200
    Pressurised CO2 via 5kg FE
    Rhinox 5000 - Thinking directly under filter intake
    Juwel T8 lightbar (60w) with additional light unit to make up to approx 90w.

    Some pics:

    Tropica substrate is very dusty. Hopefully I've used enough!
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    Bought a glass tank edge connector from AE. Seems reasonable quality though I'm wondering if I should of paid the extra £2 or £3 for the ADA one!
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    Thankfully it fitted over the edge of the tank perfectly :)
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    And this is the hardscape layout I've settled on:
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    That's it for now. Need to get a feel for the planting, and actually buy some ;) Anyone have any Eleocharis vivipara to spare? :?:
     
  2. Dave Spencer

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    Sounds like it is going to be grasstastic.

    I had some E. vivipara a while back. I get the occassional plant still growing through, so if I have room in my spare nano to grow it on a bit, I`ll send you some. The nano is currently housing cuttings I am growing on for another project.

    Dave.
     
  3. LondonDragon

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    Looking great so far Steve :) keep us posted
     
  4. Superman

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    Love the wood Steve, can't wait to see it with plants and fish in.
     
  5. Steve Smith

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    This is the sort of look I'm wanting. Need to add on some Blyxa and maybe either some Ludwigia arcuata or some other needle leaf style stem on the left where that big "U" shape in the wood is.

    Moss will hopefully be some Fissidens if I can get hold of some.

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  6. Mark Evans

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    that will look awsome. simple yet effective.
     
  7. Steve Smith

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    Thanks :)

    Would you believe it... I just broke the glass CO2 over tank thingy :arghh: :rolleyes: I think I'll order the ADA one :lol:
     
  8. jay

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    Can't beat silicone tubing going over the glass to me :)
     
  9. Steve Smith

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    So, these are the plants I'm currently waiting for:

    Eleocharis Vivipara Tall hairgrass
    Quantity - 25

    Ludwigia Arcuata or Needle leaf Ludwigia
    Quantity - 25

    Hydrocotyle Leucocephala or Mushroom Pennywort
    Quantity - 5

    Micranthemum Micranthemoides or Small Hezine
    Quantity - 25

    I'm also looking for some Pogestomon Helferi (Downoi) at the moment. Not having a great deal of luck though I've heard Maidenhead Aquatics sometimes have it in, and I might get to an MA this weekend (Gill, up for the trip?)
     
  10. Themuleous

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    That wood looks lovely, the scape should look quality with it as the centerpiece. Decent hardscape is like gold dust.

    Sam
     
  11. Mark Evans

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    your not wrong sam.

    surely theres more than just mini landscape rock and petrified wood availble. i know AE has some different stone, but wheres all the stuff amano uses?...expensive to import i guess.

    i asaid it before and i'll say it again. quality scape steve. cant wait to see it planted.

    mark
     
  12. Steve Smith

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    Thanks guys :) I was a bit unsure about the wood after I got it home, it is quite a big hunk of wood (still, no soaking to make sure it sinks eh? ;)) From different angles it is a bit flat, but I'm hoping to combat this with planting.

    Best of all, it was in a pile of other large bits similar to this and all were priced up at £19.99!

    You need to get yourself to TGM! I want to go nuts in their hardscape section but I just don't have the money...

    Anyhow, I've managed to source some downoi now, thanks very much to JamesM :) Hopefully my plants aren't sitting in the post office, as I wasn't able to get home yesterday to check for parcels. They should be OK though (fingers crossed!)
     
  13. Mark Evans

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    ive been a couple of times. i cleaned them out of there sryiou stone. :D ok they had petrified wood and manten stone. not enough manten for a decent scape though in a 120.

    mark
     
  14. jay

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    Does TGM have Yamaya stone?
    I NEED that stuff.
     
  15. Superman

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    Yer TGM has loads of hardscape stuff in. It's the only place I've found that you'll know there will be loads of choice when you get there.

    It has to be seen to be believed!
     
  16. Steve Smith

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    Any thoughts on fish stocking for this scape? I currently have Pentazona barbs and Harle's but I want to go with something different :)
     
  17. Ed Seeley

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    How about a big group of Nannostomus eques? They'd look great hovering over that grassy scape. I had a group of 12 and they were great, but 20 odd would have been awesome.
     
  18. Steve Smith

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    They look interesting Ed. I really liked the Nannostomus beckfordi at TGM when I visited for the UKAPS meet. I had wanted to try some but I've heard they can be hard to acclimitise. I think Chrisie keeps beckfordi's so I may ask her :)
     
  19. Ed Seeley

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    Mine were wild caught and acclimatised fine into my water. The great thing about the eques is the 45 degree angle they swim at, very distinctive. Small danios or rasboras could work well though.
     
  20. Steve Smith

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    I really like my coffee bean rasboras at the moment (maculatus). I have nearly 30 of them in another tank :)
     

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