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Finally planted.
Filling up.
Still have Eleocharis Vivipara to plant but I think that is being delivered tomorrow.
That's what I was hoping fordarren636 said:looking good. The accent of the tall whispy vivipara will be nice amongst the shorter planting and the rocks.
I know what your saying. I'm sure the Oxygen is in there. I have tonnes of surface tension.JenCliBee said:Your going to need a hell of alot more hiding places in that tank to make the zebs feel comfortable aswell as raising the temp to at least 82-84..... that sort of temp from what i can make out isn't exactly optimal for plants.... i think you will also struggle to obtain the amount of oxygen levels required for the zebs to flourish, especially with the higher intake of co2 required. Hightech planted tanks are far from ideal for these types of plecs.
Apart from that, the scape looks like it will turn out very nice indeed .
Putting me off getting them now lol.JenCliBee said:Surface agitation unfortunately is only really relevant in non co2 tanks, the very high temps required to keep zebs means before you even start the oxygen levels are low (higher temps = low oxygen levels).... yes agitating the water can add the required levels of oxygen, however inputting large amounts of co2 counteracts it to a certain degree. I'm also presuming these fish are young 1inch fish?.... this is also going to add to the stress levels of the fish due to them being alot more sensitive at younger ages.
I wish you all the luck in the world, i would just hate to see such beautiful fish suffer unnecessarily..... goodluck and definitely get some pics up when you have them settled
I agree, stunning fish. I have thought long and hard about them too. I should really set-up a dedicated tank for them but I just don't have the space. I'm changing a few things with the tank to hopefully make the enviroment more suitable for them. If I do take the co2 offline i'll be looking into some additional carbon dosing but for the next few months i'll see how it goes.JenCliBee said:LOL... no not at all mate.... I'm just making you aware of the potential risks tbh..... ive contemplated adding zebs to a hightech tank many many times but the voices at the back of my head have always put me off.... i think it's more the potential risks...but them potential risks could be fatal and with such a lovely fish, ME wouldn't actually like to experiment.... add the cost of the fish on top is just not worth it.
Unfortunately, the taking offline of the co2 isn't going to be feasible if you want to sustain plant health, especially the types of plants you have..... infact removing the co2 and the aftermath of the plants deteriorating would cause more harm to the plecs due to ammonia being produced.
All this is maybe me just being over cautious, plecs are my first love.... i keep plecs, i know plecs and i know the conditions which are optimal and unfortunately for zebs optimal makes for quite a bland tank usually (well bland in the choice of plants at least lol).
I wish you luck mate, i really do...i hope all goes well for you because IMO, there isn't a fish that comes close to being as stunning.
Splinun said:Urgghhh, I got loads of doubt in my mind about getting them now. I will look after them 100% but I want them to be happy....
Not a problem mate haha. They do need special requirements and I take it all on board.JenCliBee said:Splinun said:Urgghhh, I got loads of doubt in my mind about getting them now. I will look after them 100% but I want them to be happy....
Haha.... welcome to my world.... the thoughts you are getting are exactly the same as the ones that prevent me from having them in anything other than a dedicated tank.
I apologise mate for making your decision hard .
darren636 said:pleco planet might have some advice. But then how are we going to determine success? What is their expected lifespan? for example- my white koi and other goldies are 20 years old, but some would consider that age to be young... There are too many horror stories about these and similar . Food for thought.