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Good call mate, haven't been as active on PC as i used to be either but again a very good site.... i did notice what you mentioned with PP, since being a little more active, ive noticed that it's very Aussie orientated of late and very quiet on the English front... not that i have anything...

It actually made me smile to :lol: ;) No worries mate, Jen is actually short for Jenson but even that ain't my real name lol :thumbup: LOL..... i promise you peeps, i'm all man... well the last time i checked anyways ;). And yep a member on plecoplanet as is Darrel.... i'm not as...

Couldn't agree more Darrel, except for the red highlighted section..... i'm actually male ;) :shh: :thumbup: lol :)

Not so much it's got out of hand, more some info to let you know what your getting yourself in for before you folk out hundreds of £'s on fish that no one knows the selling price in 5-7 years time. As you say, they are beautiful fish but most zeb keepers will tell you to enjoy them as they are...

I mean this is the nicest possible way so please don't jump on my reply as being anything other than trying to be helpful lol. I think your getting a little ahead of yourself in regards to breeding and thinking about potential selling prices. You will ultimately be buying juvi 1 inch fish...

It will depend on how the tanks is planned to be setup?.... are you using pressurised co2?, substrate?... etc. Most plec species, well tbh no plec species would be suitable for a hightech pressurised tank but if conditions are altered slightly, some would be more suited than others.

Very sounds advice from the seller aswell mate.... they also require very high temps (basically discus temps).... not sure if you planned it in a planted tank but from my understanding plants dont fair well at such higher temps.

WCMM are also very active fish, temp yes would be fine but 27l isn't going to give anywhere near enough space for such active fish..... they may well be recommended for bi orbs but weather they should actually be in there is a different matter altogether. I agree with Darren, i wouldnt...

Simply stunning mate.

Re: Dwarf Plecos Cheers mate, will looking forward to getting them :)..... as to the diet etc etc.... i still put veg in the tank mate... it's not a strict meat diet i give but it is a strict meat diet the eat. As to the 'others' not having plant issues.... these others are some of the top...

Re: Dwarf Plecos Funny enough so do i and in 10 years of keeping and breeding both species... not once have a i any plant issues... aswell as 30-35 other breeders of these fish i know. Not sure what the wild and tank bred comment was about mate, go to any dedicated plec forum and see how many...

Re: Dwarf Plecos GN's a dwarf plec?.... that's a new one on me.... plecs in general dont eat plants if fed correctly and in abundance. SOME do have bad luck with them but generally they are considered plant safe. zebra is a no no... the temp requirements aswell as conditions aren't suited...

Are the pics of the same fish?....If so i would say female.