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Marcel, thanks this is great, I hadn't yet seen a bell syphon will look into it a bit more. I will be starting out with some 2litre bottles as I can host in doors and are kid friendly to get them started I want to get a greenhouse in the back garden this spring so this is another reason to look...

Cheers, have you used any of the ones mentioned? I'll join a couple of the U.K. Focussed ones and see how we go.

Cheers Darrel, the cat litter is for the baskets . The guttering will be square down pipe so the baskets will suspend in holes the the pipe. Loads of us videos and guides using 4inch pipe but that's expensive here.

evening guys Can anyone recommend a decent uk hydroponics forum? Going to try chillies in 2litre bottles with the kids but thinking of trying a guttering system in the garden to try tomatoes and lettuce just after a support network as good as ukaps. :) If anyone has done hydroponics before...