30L Nano. No name yet

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  1. Lauris

    Lauris Member

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    This i my third tank now.
    As recently replaced my 30 nano scape with 60L, now decided not leave it in shed
    to collect dust. Today new tank layout created. Only hardscape for few weeks. I still
    need to decide what plants I would like to see in. Used available rock and wood
    from previous scapes. Do not mind the pink rail. as this DIY thing needs to be completed.


    About tank:
    Capacity: 30L
    Ligt: Beamswork 600Lumens LED's
    Soil: ADA
    Filter: Planning to spin it with one of my old Eheim 2213


    I still need to complete the scpe. Will get some white gravel or something at fold in front, just
    before where the rocks and wood starts.


    Have no clue what live stock it will hold. Will see whats available with my LFS when I will be ready
    to spin it up. Defo some group of tiny-fancy fishes.


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    I still have no clue about what plants will go in. I need to search out for some growing
    partly dipped in water. I would like to see that piece of wood outside the box wrapped
    up with some creeping plant (any good suggestions welcome). And something green
    trying to escape the tank on top-right corner. Never tried something like, so this will
    be a new experience for me.


    ohh yeah.. I like now my dinning room much. My partner said this is too much for her.
    I guess she needs a time..


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  2. Martin in China

    Martin in China Forum Moderator Staff Member

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    Maybe time for one BIG tank...:D
     
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  3. James D

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    Looks great Lauris!
     
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  4. Lauris

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    haha. yep. But this is investment I need to prepare myself. I would like to have one 200-250L on the
    same wooden cabinet where I have 2 nanos now, but it will take a time.. it will..
     
  5. Lauris

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    soooo.. the rail is done.

    I'd say I'm proud of myself. lol :clap:
    Looks very nice. I LOVE DIY things
    Cost me nothing. Just a time to find
    a bits and pieces in my shed and attic


    the rail itself came from dissembled old bed tent-cover
    of one alike:
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    So it was just a matter of fact to get few pieces together, drill the holes, and adjust the
    LED unit itself with hooks.

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    as my wife is an artist - (www.ironia-art.com) - it did not took long to think where to get the paint
    covered the rail with 2 layers of acrylic black paint


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    now.. this is a waaaaaay much better look now :cool:
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    and fixed it in place. easy-peasy
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  6. Edvet

    Edvet Forum Moderator Staff Member

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    A real man would have kept it pink!:rolleyes:
     
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  7. Lauris

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    have have no shoes to match that color :oops:
     
  8. Adam humphries

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    Nice job think a trip into the loft sure got one similar....lol
     
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  9. Lauris

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    as expected.. it is always healthy to leave your hardscape for a while to settle with no water..
    so did few changes in the left side corner. also emptied the front fold for different gravel.
    And added few pieces of rock there and there..


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    As i never had a chance before.. I decided that this will be a nicely planted Betta tank. I always liked the
    fish but none of the tanks were suitable for it. Regardless of its size I will try to make for Betta as much
    hiding spaces as possible. I'm thinking to get a pair of it (male+female). I know they don't like strong
    currents so I will get a lilly pipe for this and will load my eheim 2213 full of media tu reduce the flow as
    much as possible. However - I would like to see a very few tiny schooling fishes. Any suggestions (suitable for Betta)
    very welcome.


    Possible plants:
    On the left side - possible one -
    Pogostemon erectus
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    I'm considering on the top right corner Sunset Hygrophila
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    And some kind of Anubias as they can adapt above the water levels


    Any suggestions?


    Thanks!
     
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  10. Fern

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    From what I have read, it really isn't a good idea to keep a male and female Betta together. It has been done, (I certainly wouldn't recommend it though) but in a very large tank, with loads of plant cover.
    Both male and female release hormones that stimulate each other into entering breeding mode, if they are in the same tank together, this may become very stressful for both of them health wise. Males and females can be aggressive with each other. If a female has laid eggs the male will chase her away from the bubble nest and attack her if she gets too close. So a 30L tank isn't suitable. (It will however be fine for one Betta) It's far better to keep them singly.
     
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  11. liam11712

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    Why not a group of females?
     
  12. Fern

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    Even the females can be pretty grouchy with each other.
     
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  13. Lauris

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    Thanks for advice. I've been recommended in other forum too to keep only one Betta. That's what I will probably do.[DOUBLEPOST=1407525216][/DOUBLEPOST]Aren't the males much better in colors and fin sizes? I like the fact I have one gorgeous instead of few so-so
     
  14. Vinkenoog1977

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    Yeah, the males are the prettiest, as with all fish species. With regards to keeping a pair, it can be done, in 30 L, but, should they breed, then after the female releases the eggs, she needs to be removed (otherwise the male will hunt and kill her, to protect the eggs), and once all the eggs have hatched, the male has to be moved from the tank as well (otherwise, he will eat the fry; nature, you have to love the logic). So, it works, if you have a couple of spare tanks in case of breeding.

    I'm going to try this myself, in two 40 L cubes, with 2 males, 1 in each, and 1 female, which I'll rotate, plus, I have a quarantine tank where the other male Betta can move into temporarely, should they breed, and should the eggs hatch. They will be joined by half a dozen of Tetras, again, should be fine, have had that combo, in those dimensions, before, except there was no female, and it was a 30 L like yours. Which was a bit tight, I have to admit, with 40 L, it should be okay.

    Anyways, so, a pair can definitely be done, but should they breed, you need some extra space to house them temporarily, until the fry grows up. Which will need to be separated as well, past a certain age, otherwise they'll chase and kill each other. So if you don't want a fuss, just get a single male.
     
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    That's a brilliant advice and clarification of things. I'll take the path with less fuss. I'm not mad about breeding. Just fancy to have a fish like I never had.
     
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    And the more filtermedia, the better; the 2213 will probably do around 250-300 l/h with the regular media, so don't be afraid to stuff it to the brim with some finer sponges and/ or ceramic/ glass media. 8 times turnover, even with a lily pipe, is still a LOT of flow for Bettas. Plus, in regards to lesser flow, and thus less CO2-distribution. you might have to adjust you're plant wishes accordingly; I haven't read anything in regards to CO2, so maybe you're going the low-tech route anyways?

    As far as a creeping plant, you could look at Micranthemum sp. "Monte Carlo", also does well in low-tech, but does not like too much/ bright light. For the right back corner, growing out of the tank, I'm thinking an Echinodorus, a red one, maybe sp. "Aflame"? Bit big, but something like that would look awesome I think. Ludwigia species grow emersed as well, they need some support over 5 cm., but that might be nice, a thick bush of Ludwigia sp. "Mini Super Red", with some stems growing on emersed? The message is: something RED! LOL

    LOVE the hardscape btw!
     
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    Awesome little scape there, will look great filled in, can't make up my mind if I liked it with less rocks or with more.
     
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  18. Lauris

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    Filter - I guess it has less in actual output. As I had it running on prev project in the same tank and with lilly pipe. Current was quite low even the canister was carrying 1/3 of the media. However I will squeeze in half of it with ceramic and half with thigh sponges. And just in case I can try to divert the current somehow to minimize the flow.

    Co2 - I have a plan for it, but in low dosage. I have one co2 tank feeding my 2 other nanos, so I will just hook up third line out for this (distribution will be the question, no doubts) I red bettas are not oxygen demanding, maybe need to search out bit more abut alkalinity ect.

    I defo will look into your plant suggestions. My thoughts were about RED in colour to the rightside corner too. Also I would love to see something creeping around the piece of wood sticking above the water levels
     
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  19. Vinkenoog1977

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    Maybe some hydrocortyle?
     
  20. Lauris

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    Ohh. Reserved with breeder for this setup.
    Lovely hmpk will be a happy habitat in this tank. I guess this male will pop-out nicely when this will be planted

     
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