Hi all, just wondering if zeolite and carbon would have a negative impact on dosing flourish and flourish excel? I have a small amount of both in my internal filter which it came with. I know carbon can strip out some treatments but but will it strip out ferts etc?
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Flourish and Flourish Excel
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PARAGUAY
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Activated Carbon is said to have none or very minimal effect, Zeolite l always thought it was put in the filter only temporarily?
Hi all,
If we assume that products like Flourish Excel aid plant growth by supplying extra plant available carbon (C) (the mechanism isn't clear <"15.6.5. Liquid CO2">) the plant can only make use of that if all the <"other nutrients needed for plant growth are available">, and the problem with "Flourish Excel" is that it is only supplying very small quantities of some of these <"TNC Complete Dosage">.
I'll be honest I have a <"very jaundiced view"> of a lot of products sold by the aquatic industry - <"Aqua Noob">.
cheers Darrel
The zeolite will probably be an ammonia (NH3) specific one, they <"aren't products"> I'd ever use (there are much <"better ways of removing ammonia">). Activated Charcoal won't remove any "ions" and plants take up their nutrients from solution as ions. In terms of the Flourish Excel, probably this <"Activated Carbon and EasyCarbo / Flourish Excel">.
If we assume that products like Flourish Excel aid plant growth by supplying extra plant available carbon (C) (the mechanism isn't clear <"15.6.5. Liquid CO2">) the plant can only make use of that if all the <"other nutrients needed for plant growth are available">, and the problem with "Flourish Excel" is that it is only supplying very small quantities of some of these <"TNC Complete Dosage">.
I'll be honest I have a <"very jaundiced view"> of a lot of products sold by the aquatic industry - <"Aqua Noob">.
I have to apologise to @Miss-Pepper at this point (it is a bit of a rant), but have a look at <"Bedside Aquarium"> those are my views distilled.
cheers Darrel
Yeah it's a rip off cartridge that comes with the internal inbuilt filter of the Superfish Quadro Pro range of tanks. They expect you to change the cartridge on a regular basis. I'm probably going to just swap out the media for something else over a period of time.
Hi all,
Personally I'd like to see a least a <"modicum of honesty"> from the vendors of filter media etc. I'm sure <"in the long run"> it would be <"to their"> (and our) advantage.
cheers Darrel
I bet they do, and <"it really annoys me">. Activated charcoal is actually a <"decent biological filter medium">, once it is no longer "activated".
Personally I'd like to see a least a <"modicum of honesty"> from the vendors of filter media etc. I'm sure <"in the long run"> it would be <"to their"> (and our) advantage.
I'm assuming you could use sponge. I buy the big sponge blocks they use for Koi ponds etc from <"Rainbow Koi in Melksham">. <"This is on a powerhead">, but I cut the sponges down for all sorts of uses. You can buy sponge sheets as well.
cheers Darrel
Rainbow Koi in Melksham ... omg. So I started my koi journey there a few years ago and have done the grow and show once. Haven't been in for a while though! What a small world
The cartridge has 2 coarse sponges and some carbon and zeolite sandwiched between. I might swap the carbon and zeolite for some k1 from my bio on my pond
Hi all,
cheers Darrel
Floating Cell Media, like Kaldnes K1, is good. We have a few threads about it <"Is expensive bio media worth it?">.I might swap the carbon and zeolite for some k1 from my bio on my pond
cheers Darrel
Oldguy
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Use dry salts and mix your own. Many threads and calculators on this site to help you with quantises.
Thanks to street drug use small electronic balances are very cheap from ebay.
