Ok well I have a Juwel Lido 120 (60 x 40 x 60cm) and I'm kind of confused about what plants to use and how to scape it. - 2 x 24W Juwel T5HOs (Amazon Frogbit avaliable to dim the lights) - No CO2 - EI solutions that Ceg told me to use (I don't think these are regular EI) KNO3, KH2PO4, MgSO4, Trace - 120l / 30g - Soft Water I've been using stem plants but they are annoying me since they have a tendency to be rather unruly. They grow extremely tall (even more so than my tank) and then the lower leaves deteriorate. I'm kind of fed up with my Hygrophila Polysperma anyway, although I do like my Ludwigia Rupens, but it still have its problems. I'm wondering if there's a way to scape my tank without stem plants (Vallis dies when I scissor it, if I pick the leaves there's like none left!.) I heard about Cryptocoryne crispatula var. balansae, and I like it, so perhaps I could use this and couple of others for the back? My water depth is actually more like 4cm, because I have thick substrate. I also really like Iwagumi at the moment, but I have a feeling it'd look extremely odd in my tank, unless of course it could be adapted? I wouldn't mind having this as a Cryptocoryne tank either (maybe with some Anubias on rock or stone), if Iwagumi isn't really an option (I think I saw George Farmer do a low tech largely around Crypts and stuff.) The only thing about Cryptocorynes is, though, is that the Cryptocoryne wendtii's I got from greenline haven't done well at all. The leaves grew really dark green / brown, and went crinkly like Pogostemon helferi (I like that plant, too). Then the plants went all yellow spotted and some melted. (Apparently this is Magnesium deficiency, which I've bought some MgSO4 for.) So before I ramble on anymore... - How would I scape my tank? - What plants could I use (other than stems, which annoy me)?