nick elton
New Member
Hi all,
My first post here. Until a few weeks ago I had little interest in aquariums or fishkeeping, but my son caught me by surprise by asking for a fish tank for his fifth birthday, a few days before the big day.
I’m not one to rush into something without research and I found out pretty quickly that there would be no way he’d have fish on his birthday. As a compromise I gave him a 60 litre tank on his birthday and we went to the fish shop to look at fish which might be suitable.
One of the reasons that I’d never been interested in aquariums before was because of the experience most people my age would have had growing up, of seeing some very large and sad goldfish swimming around with a plastic castle and some dirty gravel in a small bowl. I am an animal lover, and it would certainly make me sad seeing a site like this in my house, and even though this was a gift for my son, I will have to look at it every day and need something that makes me happy as well as him
Fast forward, and I have a 60 litre tank with a Fluval U2 internal filter. I have purchased the following substrate and hardscaping from Aquarium Gardens and set it up in the tank:
• ADA Power Sand Advance as base layer
• Tropica Aquarium Soil, capped in some areas with ADA Aqua Gravel
• A few pieces of Elderly Stone and some pieces of wood
I plan to plant the tank reasonably heavily, to ensure that the tank is something that I enjoy seeing, and that the fish will be happy, but not wishing to buy a load of expensive plants and have half of them melt, I thought that I’d give the dark start method a try. I filled the tank, making sure to use a dechlorinator, and have heated the water to 24 degrees.
The tank has been set up like this with the light off for 8 days now and I have been testing the water every day with an API drop test kit.
The results on the first day were as I expected. Ammonia high, at 4 ppm (presumably leaching out of the soil), nitrite at 0, and nitrate at 80 (seemed a little high). On the second day the nitrite rose to 0.25, which made me think that the nitrification bacteria had already started, but then nothing changed. The nitrite has stayed at 0.25 ppm since day 2, and the ammonia has not dropped. The API ammonia test is not very clear after 4 ppm but on a couple of days the level seemed perhaps to look more like 8 ppm so I have done two 15% water changes so that the ammonia levels do not inhibit the bacteria, but it has remained at 4 ppm.
I am probably being impatient, but I had expected to see some increase in nitrites by day 8. Is this normal?
Another mystery relates to my PH and water hardness. I live in London where the tap water is extremely hard; out of the tap I get a PH of 7.5, KH of 215 and GH of 340. What I don’t understand is why my tank water results are very different. I have tested PH every day and it has been 6.6 seven days out of eight, and 6.4 on one day. Further to this, the GH of the tank water is 161; I have tested this twice and it has remained steady. I’m not sure that this relevant to the nitrification bacteria in my tank, but I’d be interested to hear an explanation if anyone has one. The wood might explain the lower PH, but how does hardness reduce? When I tested the tap water I had assumed that I’d either need to add reverse osmosis water in my water changes, or only buy fish which tolerate very hard water, but if the lower hardness conditions in my tank remain after planting, do you think it would be safe to purchase less tolerant fish?
As far as I can tell, all of the conditions in my tank are suitable for nitrification of the ammonia to begin, so why isn’t it?
Happy to post the full test results if it'd be helpful
Thanks for your help and for providing such an amazing resource for novices such as myself.
Nick
My first post here. Until a few weeks ago I had little interest in aquariums or fishkeeping, but my son caught me by surprise by asking for a fish tank for his fifth birthday, a few days before the big day.
I’m not one to rush into something without research and I found out pretty quickly that there would be no way he’d have fish on his birthday. As a compromise I gave him a 60 litre tank on his birthday and we went to the fish shop to look at fish which might be suitable.
One of the reasons that I’d never been interested in aquariums before was because of the experience most people my age would have had growing up, of seeing some very large and sad goldfish swimming around with a plastic castle and some dirty gravel in a small bowl. I am an animal lover, and it would certainly make me sad seeing a site like this in my house, and even though this was a gift for my son, I will have to look at it every day and need something that makes me happy as well as him
Fast forward, and I have a 60 litre tank with a Fluval U2 internal filter. I have purchased the following substrate and hardscaping from Aquarium Gardens and set it up in the tank:
• ADA Power Sand Advance as base layer
• Tropica Aquarium Soil, capped in some areas with ADA Aqua Gravel
• A few pieces of Elderly Stone and some pieces of wood
I plan to plant the tank reasonably heavily, to ensure that the tank is something that I enjoy seeing, and that the fish will be happy, but not wishing to buy a load of expensive plants and have half of them melt, I thought that I’d give the dark start method a try. I filled the tank, making sure to use a dechlorinator, and have heated the water to 24 degrees.
The tank has been set up like this with the light off for 8 days now and I have been testing the water every day with an API drop test kit.
The results on the first day were as I expected. Ammonia high, at 4 ppm (presumably leaching out of the soil), nitrite at 0, and nitrate at 80 (seemed a little high). On the second day the nitrite rose to 0.25, which made me think that the nitrification bacteria had already started, but then nothing changed. The nitrite has stayed at 0.25 ppm since day 2, and the ammonia has not dropped. The API ammonia test is not very clear after 4 ppm but on a couple of days the level seemed perhaps to look more like 8 ppm so I have done two 15% water changes so that the ammonia levels do not inhibit the bacteria, but it has remained at 4 ppm.
I am probably being impatient, but I had expected to see some increase in nitrites by day 8. Is this normal?
Another mystery relates to my PH and water hardness. I live in London where the tap water is extremely hard; out of the tap I get a PH of 7.5, KH of 215 and GH of 340. What I don’t understand is why my tank water results are very different. I have tested PH every day and it has been 6.6 seven days out of eight, and 6.4 on one day. Further to this, the GH of the tank water is 161; I have tested this twice and it has remained steady. I’m not sure that this relevant to the nitrification bacteria in my tank, but I’d be interested to hear an explanation if anyone has one. The wood might explain the lower PH, but how does hardness reduce? When I tested the tap water I had assumed that I’d either need to add reverse osmosis water in my water changes, or only buy fish which tolerate very hard water, but if the lower hardness conditions in my tank remain after planting, do you think it would be safe to purchase less tolerant fish?
As far as I can tell, all of the conditions in my tank are suitable for nitrification of the ammonia to begin, so why isn’t it?
Happy to post the full test results if it'd be helpful
Thanks for your help and for providing such an amazing resource for novices such as myself.
Nick