99ways2die
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*My 1st post here; found your forums while doing some research, and figured you guys might find this interesting or useful.
Cross-posting from Plantedtank, where I made this initially.
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Introducing "Stone Cerge"...a mod/addition to a popular CO2 reactor type, which can be effectively applied to both Cerges and Griggs reactor designs.
I see plenty of Qs and debates here (and elsewhere) as to which is better "reactor vs diffuser."
My initial quest was driven by the desired to quiet down a Cerges reactor (started a separate thread on that), but what I have found and devised accomplishes 2 things:
1. Pre-diffusion of CO2 as it's being injected into a Cerges/Griggs reactor.
2. Gurgling/etc sound reduction of said CO2 as it enters the reactor's chamber.
While I can only speak of my own system and experience, I have managed to reduce the gurgle/"dripping water" sound of my Cerges reactor by 80-90%. A second benefit is small, pre-diffused (partially) CO2 bubbles entering the reactor container instead of "globs" of full sized CO2 bubbles, and smaller CO2 pocket in top section of the reactor.
This reduces dwell time req'd for the CO2 to dissolve in Cerges/Griggs container.
Anyway,
I've added an in-line air-stone to the plumbing of my Cerges. While you can add a commercial inline diffuser similarly into your piping, it's a PITA (especially in tight spaces) and flow reductions + fittings matching can be a nuisance. This approach places an air (CO2) stone "at the waters edge," per say, eliminating troublesome plumbing, etc.
It's fully and easily serviceable (or replaceable, rather), and anyone who uses 1/2" or greater fittings/pipes for their plumbing can easily adapt to place this in-line threaded "air stone" as a gateway between their CO2 line and the water.
Equipment - the star of the show:
0.5 Micron Home Brew Aeration Stone Inline Oxygenation Stainless Steel Diffusion Stone 1/2" NPT Carbonation Stone 1/4" Barb
www.amazon.com
$20 for two
1/2" threaded, with 1/4" barb on the end.
If you utilize any type of plumbing design where you introduce CO2 through a 1/2" threaded nipple, all you have to do is unscrew it, thread a 1/2" PVC extension (if you don't want the in-line stone to protrude deep into your pipe thus blocking water flow), then thread the air stone itself into the extension. Reconnect your CO2 tubing and you're done.
*Any sized plumbing can be easily adapted to accommodate the 1/2" threaded tee.
**If your CO2 tube is of smaller size, and I assume most are, then you will need a piece of 1/4" tubing, and a 1/4" to 3/16" barbed reducer of one kind or another. What you see in the pics below is what was available at my local Lowes, but yo can easily use anything else. I have this on order from Amazon, and will use it to further simplify this portion:
Brass Hose Barb Reducer, 1/4" to 3/16" Hose ID
www.amazon.com
Parts, as described above, prior to assembly:
Assembled:
Example of airstone threaded into a 3/4" tee (with a threaded 1/2" top)...to show how much it protrudes into the piping, if no extension is used:
A look "down the barrel of the gun" to show how it looks on the business end, once fully threaded into the 1/2" extension-no more flow reduction:
BEFORE video (pay att to the sound and the size/shape of CO2 entering the container on top, if possible to see):
AFTER video (apologies for loud k-board clicks in the background and external noise in general; my 10yr old was busy at "owning the n00bs in Fortnite"):
Extra video of the in-line air stone with CO2 applied, inserted directly into the tank itself to show how it "flows" the CO2.
Can't be really considered a "fine diffuser stone" like many normal C)2 stones sold today, but rather an air stone.
Bonus points if you're laughing at the fish like I was....so curious and interested by the gas of doom and demise, and they don't even know it!
Again, this can easily be implemented for Cerges and Griggs reactors, to tame their sound and to inject smaller CO2 bubbles into them, thus helping dissolvement.
Hope you find this useful and if I bored you all to death with the length of this post, I apologize.
-99
PS:
If something like this is/was already devised and I'm just late to the party, I apologize in advance, and mods feel free to delete my sweat and blood here.
Cross-posting from Plantedtank, where I made this initially.
-99
Introducing "Stone Cerge"...a mod/addition to a popular CO2 reactor type, which can be effectively applied to both Cerges and Griggs reactor designs.
I see plenty of Qs and debates here (and elsewhere) as to which is better "reactor vs diffuser."
My initial quest was driven by the desired to quiet down a Cerges reactor (started a separate thread on that), but what I have found and devised accomplishes 2 things:
1. Pre-diffusion of CO2 as it's being injected into a Cerges/Griggs reactor.
2. Gurgling/etc sound reduction of said CO2 as it enters the reactor's chamber.
While I can only speak of my own system and experience, I have managed to reduce the gurgle/"dripping water" sound of my Cerges reactor by 80-90%. A second benefit is small, pre-diffused (partially) CO2 bubbles entering the reactor container instead of "globs" of full sized CO2 bubbles, and smaller CO2 pocket in top section of the reactor.
This reduces dwell time req'd for the CO2 to dissolve in Cerges/Griggs container.
Anyway,
I've added an in-line air-stone to the plumbing of my Cerges. While you can add a commercial inline diffuser similarly into your piping, it's a PITA (especially in tight spaces) and flow reductions + fittings matching can be a nuisance. This approach places an air (CO2) stone "at the waters edge," per say, eliminating troublesome plumbing, etc.
It's fully and easily serviceable (or replaceable, rather), and anyone who uses 1/2" or greater fittings/pipes for their plumbing can easily adapt to place this in-line threaded "air stone" as a gateway between their CO2 line and the water.
Equipment - the star of the show:
0.5 Micron Home Brew Aeration Stone Inline Oxygenation Stainless Steel Diffusion Stone 1/2" NPT Carbonation Stone 1/4" Barb
Amazon.com: Joywayus 2pcs 0.5 Micron Home Brew Aeration Stone Inline Oxygenation Stainless Steel Diffusion Stone 1/2" NPT Carbonation Stone 1/4" Barb: Home & Kitchen
Shop Joywayus at the Amazon Home Brewing & Wine Making store. Free Shipping on eligible items. Everyday low prices, save up to 50%.www.amazon.com
$20 for two
1/2" threaded, with 1/4" barb on the end.
If you utilize any type of plumbing design where you introduce CO2 through a 1/2" threaded nipple, all you have to do is unscrew it, thread a 1/2" PVC extension (if you don't want the in-line stone to protrude deep into your pipe thus blocking water flow), then thread the air stone itself into the extension. Reconnect your CO2 tubing and you're done.
*Any sized plumbing can be easily adapted to accommodate the 1/2" threaded tee.
**If your CO2 tube is of smaller size, and I assume most are, then you will need a piece of 1/4" tubing, and a 1/4" to 3/16" barbed reducer of one kind or another. What you see in the pics below is what was available at my local Lowes, but yo can easily use anything else. I have this on order from Amazon, and will use it to further simplify this portion:
Brass Hose Barb Reducer, 1/4" to 3/16" Hose ID
Metaland Brass Hose Barb Reducer, 1/4" to 3/16" Hose ID, Reducing Barbed Hose Splicer Mender Coupler Warter Fuel Air (Pack of 2): Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
Metaland Brass Hose Barb Reducer, 1/4" to 3/16" Hose ID, Reducing Barbed Hose Splicer Mender Coupler Warter Fuel Air (Pack of 2): Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientificwww.amazon.com
Parts, as described above, prior to assembly:
Assembled:
Example of airstone threaded into a 3/4" tee (with a threaded 1/2" top)...to show how much it protrudes into the piping, if no extension is used:
A look "down the barrel of the gun" to show how it looks on the business end, once fully threaded into the 1/2" extension-no more flow reduction:
BEFORE video (pay att to the sound and the size/shape of CO2 entering the container on top, if possible to see):
AFTER video (apologies for loud k-board clicks in the background and external noise in general; my 10yr old was busy at "owning the n00bs in Fortnite"):
Extra video of the in-line air stone with CO2 applied, inserted directly into the tank itself to show how it "flows" the CO2.
Can't be really considered a "fine diffuser stone" like many normal C)2 stones sold today, but rather an air stone.
Bonus points if you're laughing at the fish like I was....so curious and interested by the gas of doom and demise, and they don't even know it!
Again, this can easily be implemented for Cerges and Griggs reactors, to tame their sound and to inject smaller CO2 bubbles into them, thus helping dissolvement.
Hope you find this useful and if I bored you all to death with the length of this post, I apologize.
-99
PS:
If something like this is/was already devised and I'm just late to the party, I apologize in advance, and mods feel free to delete my sweat and blood here.