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Deano3

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Hi Dean, tank looks great.
I’d maybe try adding more fertilisers and checking the co2 level out to help with the algae and deficiencies.
Did you ever sort the drop checker issue? A way of seeing if all is working as it should is to remove the drop checker from the aquarium for a few hours, the solution should return to blue. If it does not there is something a miss and this needs addressing. If the solution is good then you should be getting a more significant colour change towards lime green for lights on. This is essential if your light is running at 100% intensity. You need to ensure co2 and fertilisers are on point if your lighting is at maximum. You could try utilising the dimmer again to offer a bit more wiggle room. You need to ensure both the start and end points of the timer are 0% otherwise the light will always be ramping up or down from the last input.
The substrate and carpet plants may be utilising the fertilisers better so adding more may help with the pale plants and slow growth on the rest. Are you using both specialised and premium ferts?
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Thanks a lot mate and yeah it was the solution i ordered a pre made mix for drop checker and now easy to read and goes lime green for lights on. Dosing 1 swuirt of the green tropica daily at the moment maybe i should try 2 ? Thanks for kind comments and input as i need it.

Cant wait to rescape after new year as not a huge fan of the wood at minute.

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In that case I would try adding more ferts to start.
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In that case I would try adding more ferts to start.
Cheerio.
Doing that now mate doing 2 pumps.

Took wood out as sick of trying to make look right and and sick off moss going everwere looks a bit low but i want to do rescape soon.

Have a great Christmas everyone
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Little update pic heavy, tank running along nicely i feel like slow growth but grown in less than 2 months and i wouldnt want any quicker.

I am experiencing some browning of my hair grass and still having the algae on it and also bad surface film.
Any ideas ?

Also green looks less bright even than previous pichures.

Currently around 2-3bps (harder than i remember to tune in co2 as have to put on 3 1/4 hours before lights on to make light green but then starting to get very light and nearly yellow when switches off) but if up it it goes yellow later during photo period. Doing 1.2ml of flourish excel daily and 1 squirt of tropica specialised daily.

Maintenence is around every 3-4 days whenever i am free and i drain some water give rocks a quick wipe with tooth brush and glass then wipe glass with kitchen roll and sway plants around then drain 50-70% water and refil then add prime.

Any comments welcome. Looking forward to doing next scape with rocks and sand along whole front of tank so i can have more stems at the rear.

Also added 5 neons as thats all thats available locally and there lovely looking fish.

Thanks dean
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Quick update received some plants today from ryan lots of rotala in stunning condition and colour thanks very much again,however no room to plant so had to rip out some hair grass.

I will rearrange soon and rescape.

Few problems have green hair alage and browing on leave edges and haor gress isnt as green and looks brown and darker in places and has algae any ideas what would cause this ? Even when doing regular water changes and running brush and hands through grass etc hard to get rid and the grass i removed looked brownish in places.

Also co2 takes 3.5 hours to get lime green but after being on for 4-5 hours starts going yellow any reason why this happens

Thanks dean.
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Have you tried running a lily pipe instead of a jet @Deano3 ?
Hi geoffrey you think could be due to lack of flow or co2 or nutrients ? The jet seemed to move the plants around more and its also a lot smaller as nano so was more for looks to be honest.

Some of plants at rear right seem to be going see through thats behind all other plants is there such a thing as to dense planting ?

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Your pics look like surface agitation is quite high, but pics can be deceiving.

Just noting the Co2 issues, with large lag time to get drop checker where you want, may be related to this. Hair algae issues could also be related to inadequate co2 and ferts being insufficient. You could be gassing off too much Co2 due to delivery method if you are using an inline diffuser with a jet? Can’t see an in tank diffuser?

I get the aesthetic value of a jet in glass, but a good lily pipe disperses the Co2 mist evenly and if the water level is set correctly, creates a vortex that pulls on the water surface to break the tension. This skims and draws down any oily residue to improve gas exchange and provides additional top up to o2 in a controlled way.

Also your intake is a tool for controlling flow as well so placing it in the rear right corner could draw flow through the stems to improve distribution.

Tank looks really nice by the way!
 
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Your pics look like surface agitation is quite high, but pics can be deceiving.

Just noting the Co2 issues, with large lag time to get drop checker where you want, may be related to this. Hair algae issues could also be related to inadequate co2 and ferts being insufficient. You could be gassing off too much Co2 due to delivery method if you are using an inline diffuser with a jet? Can’t see an in tank diffuser?

I get the aesthetic value of a jet in glass, but a good lily pipe disperses the Co2 mist evenly and if the water level is set correctly, creates a vortex that pulls on the water surface to break the tension. This skims and draws down any oily residue to improve gas exchange and provides additional top up to o2 in a controlled way.

Also your intake is a tool for controlling flow as well so placing it in the rear right corner could draw flow through the stems to improve distribution.

Tank looks really nice by the way!
thanks for the compliment i always see the picture's and think wow it looks great but feel less so in person and defently not happy with the algae in the hair grass etc

I could try the inlet in the rear right but packed with stems so may have to move one or 2 you think worth a try ? And will i have to remove algae or once flow etc right should it start to improve ?

I wonder if i should go back to normal lily pipe to try this out even if doesnt look as good visually and thanks for that information regarding how it works really helps and also yes i have inline diffuser. Didnt relise the lilly pipe plays such an important role and maybe it is gassing off to much as does create a lot of surface movement.

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I have now fitted a a normal style lilly pipe to see if the hair grass improves in volour etc.

I will try removing algae on water change best i can and keep doing up etc.

Still took a good 3-4 hours to get drop checker lime green forst day and went yellow by time knovked off but back at work now so cant keep an eye but will get wife to.

Think mighy go back to kntank diffuser at some point as always worry about a leak but ok for now anyway.

And as previously said can you plant to dense so plants behind or under neath suffer and melt ?

Thanks and help appreciated.
Dean

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Generally tank doing ok you can see some browning and algae in the hair grass when i did water change seems to be lots of detritus in it as you see in the pic k may try using a turkey baster to get it all out incase this is the cause of the algae.

Still dosing 1 squirt tropica and 2-3bps co2.

Doing water change ever 4 days or so.

As aked earlier can you plant to densely?

Once plants grow may rescape and make sire inlet and outlet on oposite sides of tank and get plenty of flow through then.

Thanks dean
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Hi,

Looks like an deficiency of macros.

Could dose more tropica ferts daily or add extra potassium
 

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Hi,

Looks like an deficiency of macros.

Could dose more tropica ferts daily or add extra potassium
Wonder if EI dry powders work better what exactly do you ise for ferts ? but for now i will does 2x squirts of tropica specialised, seems a lot for a 45p and i will keep up water changes and trykng to get as muvh detritus up as i can .

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Dean - I’ve just moved to dosing 2 x specialised Tropica in my 45p. Done so for the last week and think I’m seeing some benefits. Tank is a similar age to yours too.

I’d say give it a try


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Thanks Patrick i will do from tonorro.

Thanks dean

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Quick update, wanted flow through the plants so removed the rock with trident fern on and planced inlet at rear right hand side of the tank, found a lot of planted in that position looked melted i take it that will be due to lack of flow and co2 do you think so ?

Since changed the outlet the surface is much clearer and less bio film. Fish seem to love hanging around in the back near the inlet.

I have now 4 ottos so hope they help with clean up, the trident on the rock leaves are see throigh in places and algae on others will it repair ? And when the simensis 53b leaves reavh the surface as they have they do the same should i remove or trim lower down and replant ?

Also purchased a turkey baster to blow up the carpet as looks like choking and clocked up. Hopefully starts to improve.

I am also dosing liquid carbon daily do lots of people do this or not ? Or just when algae bad.

Advice appreciated

Thanks dean
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Rotala seems to be doing well, think maybe loosing the red but sire its growing.

Anyone any udea what these are on some of my rotala and on mt anubias hard to see but white on outside, snails maybe ? Not tried removing yet but will tomorro and do water change.

Would you remove the trident fern on the left as leaves have black and see through patches and algae etc or can it be saved ? It was originally on rear right behind all other plants with no light or flow i susspect.


Any advice on my previous questions would be helpful.

Thanks dean
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Hi all,
ut white on outside, snails maybe ?
They are <"River Limpets"> (Acroloxus lacustris).
Would you remove the trident fern on the left as leaves have black and see through patches and algae etc or can it be saved
Should be savable, I'd trim of all the dead leaves.
I have now 4 ottos so hope they help with clean up
Are they eating vegetables as well? I never like to let mine get any thinner than the one on the glass in the last photo.

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Hi all, They are <"River Limpets"> (Acroloxus lacustris). Should be savable, I'd trim of all the dead leaves. Are they eating vegetables as well? I never like to let mine get any thinner than the one on the glass in the last photo.

cheers Darrel
I will trim off the leaves thay are black and dead and hopefully be saved and was just dying due to being behind all the other plants so getting no light etc or flow, changed the inlet to behind plants now so hopefully improves.

Will the limpets cause any harm ? How can i get rid of them ?

What us the best thing to feed the ottos what would you recomend ?

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