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Ray

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does a dark start start the biological bacteria off.
Yes. Green Machine talk about it in thier book - they do the hardscape, let it run a month without lights so the tank can cycle, then plant.
If you don't have enough mature filter media to seed the new filter, it could be worth running a fishless cycle while you wait.
 

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Yes. Green Machine talk about it in thier book - they do the hardscape, let it run a month without lights so the tank can cycle, then plant.
If you don't have enough mature filter media to seed the new filter, it could be worth running a fishless cycle while you wait.
I’ll do blackstart too, that’s an great technique
 

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Think i will do a blackstart guys but i decided to soak the manzinita wood in aquarium to get to sink, hopfully tannins dont stain the silicon etc inam going to soak until sinks then i have a play with the hardscape then darkstart

Will that be ok you think ?



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The water in tank is full on tannin and very brown would you change water every few days while soak the wood ?

Thanks dean

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I would move that wood into a big plastic container / bucket and keep it outdoors.

It's going to stink in a few days and a plastic container is lighter and easier to clean.
 

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Ok thanks everyone i will get moved today and soak outside just hope doesnt get full of bugs etc as only have opentop containers.

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I have wood soaking outside in a tub and in a plastic dustbin as well as a couple of larger pieces that will not fit in those soaking in a tank with the filter running. So far no visible bugs on the outside tubbed wood, just some very panicked spiders when they realised their home was about to be submerged :eek:
 

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Ok thanks everyone i will get moved today and soak outside just hope doesnt get full of bugs etc as only have opentop containers.

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Why soak it?

Can you not arrange your hardscape and glue all the wood down?
 

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Why soak it?

Can you not arrange your hardscape and glue all the wood down?
I thought may be better to soak and hopefully dont have to glue it mate and no problem as in no rush.

Sure there is enough wood anyway

Cant wait to try some scapes out.
And secondly using is pump is so convenient and easy such a pleasure

Dean


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Hi all,
just hope doesnt get full of bugs etc
I wouldn't worry about that, it is only likely to be non-biting midges and their larvae are "blood-worms", so free food. If you get Mosquito larvae they don't cling to the wood, so you will leave them behind when you take the wood out.

cheers Darrel
 

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Always better to soak, release all the excess nutrients, dirt , tannins and reduce the mold on the wood when starting the tank. ;)
 

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Im the bucket now thanks eveyone well most of it is in the box some sticks out but better than nothing. And water was brown after 1 day in tank hopefully clears i will change water ever couple lf days

Dean

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Hi everyone ok so wanting to get planted ordered for early next week how does the list below look i want mainly easier plants and some nice colors, how do you feel about the amounts ?

tropica ludwigia palustris x2
tropica limnophila hippuridoides x2
tropica rotala h'ra x2
tropica 1-2 cryptocoryne undulatus red x2
tropica bucephlandra kedagang x2
tropica bucephlandra sp red x2
tropica bucephlandra wavy green x2
tropica microsorum pteropus trident x3
tropica 1-2 monte carlo x4
tropica hygrophila pinitifida x1 (only 1 in stock will get more)
tropica simensis 53B x2
aquaflora cryptocoryne tropica x2
(please mind any spelling misstakes)

i am hoping to buy a large batch of anubia nana and petit from a forum member and waiting to take some more anubias and bucephlandra from my 45P will this be ok to do in small amounts.

please let me know what you think and also what moss is best thats sticks together and doesnt overtake whole tank .

thanks dean
 

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Looks good Dean, lots of stem plants. What sort of layout are you going for?
Maybe order an extra pot of monte carlo, mine is part melting so wish I had.

Weeping moss is a nice moss, much slower than java and fine to put up high in water column.
 

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Looks good Dean, lots of stem plants. What sort of layout are you going for?
Maybe order an extra pot of monte carlo, mine is part melting so wish I had.

Weeping moss is a nice moss, much slower than java and fine to put up high in water column.
Thats mate will order couple potts of moss aswel i will be taking some crypts etc from my 45 aswel and most of the plants actually.



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Hi everyone plants arrived and got planted yesterday still not got lights on today as trying to get co2 drop checker green and pouring co2 into the tank . Here are some pics of the process. I tried hardscapes monday but wasnt happy so tried again tuesday and went back to horizon for more rocks and quite happy with it now.

Hardscape is manzinita wood and mini landscape rock in a sort of triangle composition. I have smaller stones to add around the edges one settles.

Here are a few pics from the process, i nearly give up and covered in soil but glad i didnt as this was my original idea.

Used jbl lava and around 2 bags of tropica or just a little less.

Quite happy with end result hope you like it.

Some of rotala pots were bulging out what i was happy with, did large water change this morning and will do all week and dosed with 35ml of macro mix. I will keep eye out for any melt etc, if crypts melt etc should i syphon the deal leaves away ?

Still waiting on some anubias to come sent by a fellow member and put in some plants from my 45p.

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I like it Dean, looks good. I like the scape, (no constructive criticism as I don't know anything about scaping)

They are lovely tanks, love the cabinet, especially without the middle bit of wood.

My crypts melted (pygmea), the rest were fine. I just used a turkey baster and siphon. I found 4 hours to be a good time for my co2 to come on, nice and yellow at lights on, could just be me tho ( I had to have the water closer to the rim to hit the high co2 tho.

Hopefully those plants turn up soon,
 

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