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WORLD WAR 3???

InNi2010

InNi2010

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🥺 Please.. please no war
Families are scared and it is an APOCALYPTIC SITUATION .
PLEASE STOP THE FIGHTING
Please please please
 
Unfortunately, I fear it is too late for Ukraine.

The situation is incredibly complex politically and militarily and as much as I would like to see other countries rally and protect a sovereign nation (look what happened last time we let a bully run amok in Europe), I fear the results would be catastrophic and Ukraine will be sacrificed to stop a wider war.

I have friends in the country at the minute, thankfully far enough away from the fighting and on the way into Poland shortly.

A scary scary situation all around and I hope there can be a solution that doesn't involve lots of civilian casualties (though judging by the video I saw of a Russian tank roll over a passenger car that doesn't look likely either :( )
 
PARAGUAY said:
I have a feeling this could actually be the end for Putin.
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I have a feeling it's the only way to end this pointless madness! This is a war created by one-man, not a nation!
Gotta feel sorry for those poor souls that have to endure this in this day and age!

Nick potts said:
judging by the video I saw of a Russian tank roll over a passenger car that doesn't look likely either
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Somehow that old man survived! there is a video of people pulling out of a car, but many others have died pointlessly!
 
Unfortunately i think Ukraine will be sacrificed
It’s terrible that one person can have so much power in 2022,
It’s shows that Russia is no where close to being a democracy

Despite Europe supposedly being together as one it seems to me that the toughest sanctions were not forth coming as quickly as they should of done due to individual states being hesitant and maybe putting their self interests first ?

I hope the Ukrainian people don’t capitulate and the weapons they need to product themselves and their country find there way to them asap


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LondonDragon said:
Somehow that old man survived! there is a video of people pulling out of a car, but many others have died pointlessly!
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Yeah seen that vid, how he survived that is a miracle.
dean said:
Despite Europe supposedly being together as one it seems to me that the toughest sanctions were not forth coming as quickly as they should of done due to individual states being hesitant and maybe putting their self interests first ?
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I don't think any sanctions would have stopped him, he's been eyeing up Ukraine for a long time, as for self-interests first, absolutely but I think that is always the case and oftentimes needs to be, unfortunately, we can only be without our comforts, gas etc before we no longer care what happens or to who to make sure we get it.
 
Hopeful thoughts, and sadly Ukraine will capitulate and the west will do nothing. Dreams are made and destroyed. What's your dream made of.... mines made of fish and plants, the rest is throth and coffee.
 
There is some suggestion that Ukraine is putting up somewhat more resistance than the walkover the Tsar expected. Requisitioning Russian medical personnel and trauma specialists to relocate at short notice for example.

No doubt Russia has the heavy metal to obliterate this country but I think there is no appetite in the Russian population for either a massacre or a long drawn out bloody war, and the longer it goes on, and the more deaths on either side, the weaker will be Putin's position at home.

A horrible situation all round.
 
LondonDragon said:
I have a feeling it's the only way to end this pointless madness! This is a war created by one-man, not a nation!
Gotta feel sorry for those poor souls that have to endure this in this day and age!


Somehow that old man survived! there is a video of people pulling out of a car, but many others have died pointlessly!
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WOW.
I've seen it.
A large military vehicle barging to a bypassing car, as tanks parade from almost every direction
I'M ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED.
I have a feeling that the UK and other countries might get into this -
Would it be worth fighting for Ukraine
Or do we just stand by, aiding the Ukraine's Military?
Or do we do nothing -
the world is to political and to controversial.
Is this some kind of revenge
or is it Putin's miscalculation of history -
I don't know -
I don't think anybody will know
 
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NATO is past its use by date. Sitting on their hands while another country is being invaded isn't what I call helpful.
Sanctions on the other hand are pointless and don't work, the only way to stop this is to get rid of poo tin.

Rant over.
 
InNi2010 said:
I'M ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED.
I have a feeling that the UK and other countries might get into this
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A scary situation no doubt, but I would not be worried too much about the UK or NATO getting involved. While Putin is clearly a despot he isn't crazy and knows what he can get away with, he knew the world would say a lot of things and call him a bad person, but would ultimately watch as he takes Ukraine.
 
The historical cycles mean that things like this will keep occurring even 'in this day and age'...look at what's happening in China for example! One issue is that too few are alive to remember the trauma of past events and so history repeats itself. It's all good reading about it but it's human nature to respond to experience. You can advise someone not to go down a certain path and they can take heed, but it often requires them them to get burnt to realise why.

Unfortunately I don't think there's a positive outcome whether the UK and other Western countries get involved or not. Standing by gives the green light to Putin that it's ok and plausible to do this (not that the West should be pointing fingers but that's another story). Getting involved also means consequences at home.

The worrying thing is that like many other leaders, Putin is a narcissistic sociopath and acts to feed his own agenda. People like this might even disguise their motives as being for the greater good but it is not the case.

I hope there is some resolution possible that I haven't considered, because war is futile.
 
I’ve been saying for a long time that when the jingoism of World War Two, Poppy Day, brexit narrative started to become so toxic and pushed to the forefront in political discourse that a war isn’t going to be that far behind…

I hope I’m wrong. But I’ve a pretty good track record for getting it right when it comes to British politics.

And what with Boris thinking he’s Churchill and having so much bad news to bury? I’m sure there someone in a living room of power doing the maths and saying “what’s losing a few squadies to bury all this party, letwin, investigations into lobbying and second jobs and keep our man in the job”
 
The Ukrainian people are extremely brave and my heart goes out to them that essentially they are on their own. There have already been so many heroic stories coming out and they have shown amazing resilience.
 
It's only a matter of time before he takes over the Ukraine, I don't think the Ukraine has enough resources to keep the Russians at bay for long without outside help, the question is what will happen then?
Those people don't want to be ruled by the Kremlin! The West doesn't want to get involved, that will surely kick off WW3, Putin is not stupid to invade an EU country! So it's all very political and the innocent suffer in the process!
 
Russian here (British, living in UK for over 20 years).

The whole thing is outrageous. To invade Ukraine for most Russians (and Ukrainians) was unthinkable. And yet here we are.
All of ex USSR is interconnected with family relations and friends. Ukraine especially. My father is from Ukraine and my Ukrainian grandma lives with my family in Russia. I've been to Ukraine many times as a kid. Nothing, but good memories.
This war is like a rape of your own family. Sadly a lot of Russians in Russia are brainwashed by the media, propaganda, etc. and will try to justify this invasion. I almost fell out with my younger brother speaking with him today...
I'm angry and sad.

Please remember a lot of Russians are against it and some will even protest, but opposition is suppressed, often with severe consequences.
 
Zhekus said:
Russian here (British, living in UK for over 20 years).

Please remember a lot of Russians are against it and some will even protest, but opposition is suppressed, often with severe consequences.
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There’s certainly no bad feelings towards the Russian people except Sergei Markov he shows how brainwashed some are

The best possible outcome would be for the people of Russia to rise up depose Putin and become a true democracy thus stoping the war in Ukraine


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