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So a simple mistake like that could have caused the issues with my rotala?
Thank you @dw1305 @Zeus for helping me sort this out.
I'm guessing when I mix a new batch I should see improvements reasonably quickly in a fast grower like rotala sp?

When the new fert calculator is ready I plan on tweaking things a little anyway/experimenting a little so I can learn.
 

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When the phosphate and iron react is it just the iron that becomes unusable or both the phosphate and iron?
 

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Hi all,
When the phosphate and iron react is it just the iron that becomes unusable or both the phosphate and iron?
Both, so Fe+++ and PO4--- form the insoluble ferric (iron III) phosphate, FePO4. Usually you would run out of Fe+++ ions before you run out of PO4--- ions.

When you have <"phosphate stripping" at a waste water plant"> they continually add ferric chloride (FeCl3) to the waste stream to generate the Fe+++ ions which strip the PO4--- from the water column and precipitate out the insoluble FePO4.

cheers Darrel
 

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This is seriously complicated to me i really need to learn more about ferts and what abbreviations are and what lack of nutrients cause.

I literally purchased the Apfuk starter kit and dose alternate days.

Can i make a AIO solution from these elements ? Sorry to hijack mate but what exactly are you dosing etc ?

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This is seriously complicated to me i really need to learn more about ferts and what abbreviations are and what lack of nutrients cause.

I literally purchased the Apfuk starter kit and dose alternate days.

Can i make a AIO solution from these elements ? Sorry to hijack mate but what exactly are you dosing etc ?

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Yes, doesnt matter where the Anions and Cations come from as plants don't read the labels ;) just need some Potassium sorbate and Ascorbic Acid (vit C) - both cheap as chips on ebay
 

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Hi all, Both, so Fe+++ and PO4--- form the insoluble ferric (iron III) phosphate, FePO4. Usually you would run out of Fe+++ ions before you run out of PO4--- ions.

When you have /campaign.veoliawatertechnologies.co.uk/phosphorus-removal?']phosphate stripping" at a waste water plant[/URL]"> they continually add ferric chloride (FeCl3) to the waste stream to generate the Fe+++ ions which strip the PO4--- from the water column and precipitate out the insoluble FePO4.

cheers Darrel
Thanks Darrel, I think I understand that enough, chemistry wasnt/isn't my subject. Never needed it to drive HGV's
At least we've got to the bottom of it and I should be OK from now on.
 

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This is seriously complicated to me i really need to learn more about ferts and what abbreviations are and what lack of nutrients cause.

I literally purchased the Apfuk starter kit and dose alternate days.

Can i make a AIO solution from these elements ? Sorry to hijack mate but what exactly are you dosing etc ?

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I still have the starter kit from apfuk I've just had to buy so K2S04 as the kit doesn't have it. That's so I can reduce the nitrate in the water column without reducing the phosphate. Mgso4 (epsom salt) is much cheaper in bulk in places like ebay for example.
 

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Yes, doesnt matter where the Anions and Cations come from as plants don't read the labels ;) just need some Potassium sorbate and Ascorbic Acid (vit C) - both cheap as chips on ebay
Bought both of them on ebay, the ascorbic acid (vit c) is really cheap as body builders use the stuff.
 

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That's what's nice about DIY ferts, cheap as chips really. As long as you turn your noggin on when making them
 

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I actually purchased K2so4 from APFUK so think tk make a AIO all i will need is absorbic acid what i take it is VIT C .

I will have to get some from ebay then make a post i think thanks guys

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I actually purchased K2so4 from APFUK so think tk make a AIO all i will need is absorbic acid what i take it is VIT C .

I will have to get some from ebay then make a post i think thanks guys

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You will need some potassium sorbate too which is basically a mould inhibitor.
 

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Tidied up the sand, scrubbed a few rocks, trimmed the moss and removed a lot of frogbit. Plugged a few more holes that I've missed in the wall, it seems I have missed a few
Stems have picked up since my mistake with the ferts, grown rather fast in the past week. Added some pebbles covered in some cracking fissidens from @Filip Krupa
Harlequins are now at 30 and I've added 10 cherry barbs. 3 males 7 females, which have settled in well.

Also the buce that melted are growing new buds and small leaves so I'm hoping they are coming back.
 
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Tidied up the sand, scrubbed a few rocks, trimmed the moss and removed a lot of frogbit. Plugged a few more holes that I've missed in the wall, it seems I have missed a few
Stems have picked up since my mistake with the ferts, grown rather fast in the past week. Added some pebbles covered in some cracking fissidens from @Filip Krupa
Harlequins are now at 30 and I've added 10 cherry barbs. 3 males 7 females, which have settled in well.

Also the buce that melted are growing new buds and small leaves so I'm hoping they are coming back.

Looking really great! I do love the island style layout, it always seems to create a greater sense of space.
 

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Looking really great! I do love the island style layout, it always seems to create a greater sense of space.
Thank you, I'm enjoying this tank quite a lot. Maintenance is a pleasure it's so easy. (well, not keen on the sand at the minute)

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Thank you, moss is slowly spreading up the manzi and hopefully the hygrophila will grow emersed at some point.

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Looks great mate does the moss just slowly spread as i was unsure of this as want to keep tight in wood ?

Dean

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