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...regular 25ppm co2 has been re-instated for the last 5 days but there is still no improvement, this is the reason for my 'vacuming EcoComplete' thread and ultimately my plans to start a new scape. But before i go ahead with those plans i wanted to check if anyone new any tricks to elimate the...
Hi all, i'm stripping my aquascape and starting again, it has been setup for 6 months, i have never cleaned the substrate (Carribsea EcoComplete) as my tank was 100% planted, however it is a bit of a mess so i tried to vacume it a little bit only to find that because it is so light that it just...
...here what is? that works and settles quickly in the aquarium - fish will have to go in ASAP :shock:
I know I could buy something like ADA aqua soil or Malay/Amazonia or EcoComplete, but they don't really seem in the spirit of EL Natural and I'd much prefer to spend the money on loads of...
...that HC liked KNO3 (I made up 30ml TPN+ with 10g KNO3 added), and this seems to have helped alot. I havent trimmed it at all yet, but it took a long time to get a hold in the EcoComplete, so i was always pushing bits back in to the sub.
Thanks CeeBee :D Thats exactly what I do :lol:
Tony
cheers LD, i still get a lot of comments and feedback which is real nice. :D
after consulting the oracle, flow and co2 with the addition of KNO3 is key to HC's success. :wink: i also found out that hc does better at 26c
i've come back from the shop and have had bit of a trimming session...
They tend to generalise suggestions that are true.
Corys are silt sifters and therefore smaller grained substrates are best, the smoother the better.
Sand is ideal for them and you will see them display their natural feeding behaviour sifting the sand through their gills.
With small grain...
Everything I read suggests the whole 'cory's don't like gravel' is a myth, they come from all around the world across a widely mixed choice of substrate in nature. I've had them on gravel, sand, EcoComplete (which is actually quite rough) and they've all been fine.
Really nice Mark
I've got HC in EcoComplete in my nano, and its struggling. I'm going to up the kno3 having read this, but it definitely struggles to get a hold in the EcoComplete - I'm replanting floating bits most mornings, so I think powder might be better too.
Tony
...starting a new tank - my fish will be going back in there once it's refilled. Unless anyone has any ideas for getting around this?
EcoComplete Have heard and seen good results with this. i dont really need the bacteria stuff that comes with it, so don't know whether Id be paying for...
...it's a shame you didn't use Oliver Knott's substrate exclusively to get a true impression of performance vs. Aqua Soil. It's great to mix stuff though - I think my biggest mix was Tropica, EcoComplete, AquaClay, Aqua Soil and Unipac black in Matt Clarke's tank. It's still going strong...
HI
I'm just planting a load of HC for the first time (thanks Aaron), and my substrate is Eco-Complete, which is quite "chunky" compared to the tiny HC. The tank is drained, so I'm pushing small clumps of 4 or 5 stems in to the sub every 25 or so mm.
Is this correct, and will it be OK ? It...
...so doesnt look as neat.
I know the 2wpg rule doesnt really apply to nano tanks, but will the 35w cause me algae issues - that'll be over 8wpg !
Substrate is EcoComplete, CO2 is FE injfection, Ferts are TPN+ tabs and liquid, planting will be HC, P Helferi and Eleocharis Acicularis.
Thanks
Tony
...to back, what do you think? Tank is an 83 gallon 48"x24"x20" high, lighting is 300w Metal halide,c02, & I'll be dosing EI, substrate is ecocomplete.
The list so far:
Alternanthera Reineckii Purple (lilacina)
Hygrophila Polysperma Rosanervig (or Sunset)
Limnophila Aromatica
Pogostemon Stellata...
...hardness of the water,it's usually used for tanganyikan cichlids & setups like that. You could go for a complete substrate like ada as or ecocomplete, or you could go for tropica substrate, or a few other alternatives, & cap it with sand or a fine gravel. I would also cover the entire base of...
...is (allegedly :lol: )the best it is expensive & you can get some good deals if you can shop around, I managed to get the last lot of ecocomplete for £17 a bag reduced from £23! Tropica substrate is good stuff as I've used it on a couple of setups but as beeky says is can be a little messy...
Hi, I'm almost at the point of setting up my new tank, I have bought EcoComplete,managed to get it for £17 a bag reduced from £23-probably due to the current economic climate! I was wondering if i should use some filter mulm & some of my old substrate-tropica substrate under fine gravel-which...
...of course, but you get the idea.
One of my best I think - taken about this time last year. My latest 120cm is better and will likely be my ADA 2009 entry.
Spec -
216 litres
2 x 54w T5, 8 hours
2 x 1200lph external filters
Pressurised CO2 into filter
Ecocomplete
TPN+ daily
1/3 WC per week
Hi,
Since pricing is similar the trend is to use the ADA AquaSoil in lieu of EcoComplete. AS is a more nutritious substrate and the required quantities are more or less equivalent. Review the articles in the Tutorials forum section which provide information regarding tank setup, CO2...
...is all over the place, and partly to clear out a moderate BGA infestation.
I'm going to add pressurised CO2, decent substrate (probably EcoComplete), plant heavily, improve the flow and start dosing EI.
My question is whether it's worth trying to "kill" the BGA that's in there? Would...
hmm yeah that could work. problem is theres not enough so im either goin to have to buy a bag of ecocomplete or get few bags of black sand . in places the substrates like an inch deep :(
...completely redid it all today
eco complete substrate
luminaire 24wx3 t5
tpn and dry ferts.
only bad thing is , i didnt get enough eco complete so its not really made a slope like i wanted it to. would i be ok to cap the ecocomplete with black sand? or dyou think i should buy another bag of it
Hi Zed,
I'm not sure what the density of the ecocomplete is. It's best to use the substrate calculator given above http://www.plantedtank.net/substratecalculator.html
The calculator does exactly the same thing as we just did but in order to tweak it for a triangle enter a length and...
...At least the Tropica description is honest as they spell out exactly what's in it.
Enriched substrates such as ADA Aquasoil, JBL Proflora and possibly Ecocomplete have organic substances like peat mixed in with inorganic nutrients so they don't require the addition of carbon additives.
Cheers,
things like Aquasoil or Ecocomplete arent inert substrates like sand or gravel.. they contain nutrients which last for xxx amount of time. They can also effect the water such as softening and adjusting PH.
Because of their more dynamic properties you can use them to accomplish various tasks in...
...to get things right from the off!
I'm wondering what substrates people would recommend? I need about 3L/KG, and have therefore ruled out ecocomplete because I'd be using less than 1/3 of a bag and have no use for the rest.
As far as I can see my choices are:
ADA Aqua Soil - 3L
JBL AquaBasis...
...aims of UKAPS to improve awareness of the modern practices of the planted tank hobby.
I am banned from buying fish from my local LFS because i add poisons to my tank (NPK).
I would and do choose ADA over any other substrate available at the moment. Though ECOComplete would be my second choice.
...an Acrylic, but this would work out 2.3 times more expensive plus it seems they are very easy to scratch.
Oh i am intending to use ecocomplete. ADA would be a massive expense and this guy can get EC for £18/20lb, which seems to be a good price.
After advice from you Clive I think i will be...
...substrate calculator here=> http://www.plantedtank.net/substratecalculator.html For a 3 inch average depth you'll need about 100 ponds of Ecocomplete.
My suggestion is to get the Greenline mix. You can always add plants that you think you might like later on, but you need to figure out how...
...of AS. To create the proper illusion I filled the front 5 inches with AS and the aft 14 inches with inert gravel mixed with a bit of Ecocomplete (the tank is 19 inches front to back). This meant I only had to buy a half dozen bags of AS, and that only carpet plants would be mounted on it. In...
Hi and welcome to UKAPS.
You've got a decent layout there. How are the plants growing now you've changed to ecocomplete? There's loads of information around here as you've probably seen and if you keep an eye out on the for sale subforum you'll be able to get some cheap/free plants to bulk your...
...before and I know they can be quite difficult so anything that helps to make it easier is much appreciated.
I intend adding some substrate from one of my existing setups to help with the cycling of the ecocomplete that I'm using in the new tank,I'm assumimg that would still be OK for this...
...which provides carbohydrates for the bacteria.
I believe you mentioned that you intended to use a so-called enhanced substrate such as Ecocomplete. The organic material in the sediment will provide food for the bacteria and the high quantity of plants will pump oxygen into the substrate...
...really is no other way!That's why we are going to screw all the wood into position to keep things as stable as possible.
We are using ecocomplete for our substrate,another 10 bags was ordered today,taking us up to 28 bags :shock: We may use cobbles underneath in areas where we want a greater...
...is of P. stelleta in 100% Aquasoil Amazonia (No PS). The second photo is P. stelleta in a mixture of inert gravel and a little bit of Ecocomplete. These plants are in the same tank but the sediments are segregated. Can you tell the difference? No, you can't. In this case water column dosing...
...another substrate underneath I'd try and use something with a smaller particle size as, over time, larger particles will work their way to the surface as the smaller particles settle and work underneath the larger particles. If you stick with pure EcoComplete obviously this can't happen at all.
...thread discussing the use of this substrate=> viewtopic.php?f=17&t=741
You could easily use this as the base upon which you place the ecocomplete, or you could use it on top of the ecocomplete if the color and texture appeals to you. There are actually plenty of options you can top the...
...I'm looking now for some specific ideas/help for areas where I'm unsure and the first one is the substrate.I currently have 16 bags of ecocomplete waiting to be used in the new tank but that is only 320lbs and if I'm looking for 3" depth approx. I'll need much more,about 576lbs total...
...and holes are a bit of a mystery. The dosing scheme looks perfect to me, your lighting is high but not at all over the top and the EcoComplete is an enriched substrate so I don't see why these deficiencies should appear unless they are somehow coupled to the short term CO2 loss you...
...loss so these are a couple of things to think about in the sump design. You will probably have to inject the CO2 into the sump so this is another issue to consider.
16 bags of EcoComplete probably won't be enough to get the 3-4 inches of substrate but you could add other gravel on top.
Cheers,
...the opportunity to try something new so I'm hoping that you may be able to offer some suggestions.
We have bought 16 bags of caribsea ecocomplete live planted substrate so I'm hoping that will be OK :shock: Other than that we are open to suggestions about all the hardware etc.
Here's a...
I haven't seen any post with this substrate, which I thought was quite common and relatively cheap compared to ADA and ecocomplete.
I have used it before and plan on using it again in my high tech. I has a heater cable there is already old soil in the tank im just adding some more to boost and...
Yeah, I meant the stemmies, not the Echinodorus. Look very distinctive, especially the shot on the video, just stood out to me. The red plants blend into everything else with my lack of colour vision! Different shapes and shades are way more noticeable.
I know the feeling of the hardscape...
...isn't any room for a clump due to the hardscape. i was a plonker when arranging it and most pieces touch each other at the base then ecocomplete on top meaning i have to plant in the gaps between the wood. there are not many open planting areas apart from where the crypts are behind the...
Thanks, Mark!
Lisa - I find the Aquaclay ok but I wouldn't choose it personally. Jeremy and I used it to bulk out the Ecocomplete in his 120cm Iwagumi, as we didn't have enough. It was a base layer but has migrated to the top somwhat, over time/maintenance etc. I haven't found any floating...
...grow plants better than the substrate you have now but not as well as the latest generation of enriched substrates like ADA Aquasoil or EcoComplete. You'll find that given the choice and availability most will opt for the clay based Aquasoil, however substrates are heavy and you probably...
...If not properly washed, the AS and Flourite will make the water cloudy but this is not toxic, merely ugly for a few days. The EcoComplete comes with it's own bacteria priming liquid so it doesn't have to be washed. The water will still cloud though, but no big deal. All three substrate you...
...and changing out the substrate.
I've heard that by hanging a netted bag of the old substrate on the side of the tank for a few days it really helps prevent an ammonia/nitrite spike.
Will AS, EcoComplete or Flourite leach anything into my water enough to cause discomfort to my fish...
...enables them to uptake nutrients more quickly from the water. Ideally, it would be better to have both an enriched substrate (such as AS, EcoComplete, Flourite or even potting soil+sand) and water column dosing.
I've often seen where some plants are described as "Heavy root feeders" which I...
...looking at my substrate for too long or whether it's a case of the neighbors lawn looks greener than mine but I have a combination of EcoComplete topped with ADA Amazonia and you, know what? The black substrate has lost it's thrill. Maybe because it tends to turn gray under certain lighting...
If it were me -
Ferts - EI or PMDD+PO4 with dry ferts
Substrate - EcoComplete, ADA Aqua Soil, Akadama, or Seachem Flourite Black Sand. I'd like to try out the Seachem stuff sometime myself.
There's the farily new Vallisneria caulescens, but I didn't have much success, even with 3.5wpg T5, CO2, TPN+, hardwater and Ecocomplete. I was spot dosing Excel though to treat some BBA on wood, but not overdosing.
Nesaea crassicaulis and Nesaea pedicellata are nice, the former being suited...
...Blyxa...maybe pogostemon, maybe a smaller sword species.
The "beds" would be raised up....held back by rock like James' with about 3" of ecocomplete in each section.
The last section would either be fine white sand or a 1" deep bed of ecocomplete with it packed out with glossostigma.....i'm...
...another thread which goes into the components a bit more (probably Subtrates!)
You mention Aquasoil - did you price that up? :shock: Ecocomplete's cheap!
Depending on your planting, you might get away with using Ecocomplete in certain areas, rather than all over. As I understand it, stem...
Thanks mate....this is what i need.....a bit of constructive critisism and a pointer in the right direction so i get it right first time.
Yep...got two x 2kg full FE bottles
Ok....i am on a budget but i will price it up to see if i can afford it.
Always liked using RO mixed with tap water...
...at 200C for a few hours to fix the nitrogen. But other than for cost reasons, why bother? Just use any popular enriched substrates like EcoComplete, or Flourite and top with ornamental gravel if you don't like their looks.
In my opinion RO is unnecessary unless you intend to grow the...
...off.
the colours are fantastic in the flesh dave my point and shoot camera cannot fully do it justice. I am very impressed with the ecocomplete as well, i have not added anything at all to it and the plants are looking very healthy indeed. i am now on full EI though so this may have been the...
glad the link was usefull. just a tip though if you are removing fish then is possible totally empty the tank of water before adding ecocomplete, it does not need washing as it is prepacked in blackwater. this does not mean it's nice and clean. i added it straight to a full tank and it took...
...for biomass. I'll replace it eventually for something lower maint.
Tank - 120x40x45cm (216 l.)
Light - 4 x 54w HO T5 Arcadia Plant Pro
CO2 - Pressurized 2 BPS into 1550lph external filter
Ferts - DIY macros, Tropica Plant Nutrition+
Substrate - EcoComplete
Anyway, I'm happy with it so far -
Jeremy Gay (PFK deputy editor) is lending me, for 6 months, his 120x40x45cm braceless, rimless tank with 4x54w T5 overtank luminaire + Ecocomplete substrate, pressurized CO2 etc.
JamesC is kindly supplying me some of his PMDD+PO4 dry ferts for dosing. Trace will be Tropica.
I have 2x...
maybe but he has ecocomplete substrate so i wouldassume from that it's a water column thing. are you not adding macro's at all? even though it's relativly low light with the co2 in there they will be growing faster than you expect. i'd add potassium nitrate if i were you. i have seen my swords...
...one layer as with all my fiddling about changing scapes any layered substrate would get mixed up quite quickly. I have decided now on ecocomplete 6 bags ordered for 2/3 of the tank. the other 1/3 will be play sand substrate split side by side not on top i you know what i mean. i just need to...
...plants will cost me at least £250 plus i want an ADA diffuser. wood will be at least £100 so thats already £450. i have ordered ecocomplete from ebay. 6 bags for £120 incl postage but cant afford anything else until octobers bonus payment! in an ideal world i would set it all up together...
...tanks. Squeeze the old sponges out into your new fliter.
Squeeze some gunk out onto the tank floor before adding substrate.
Put some old substrate as a base layer too to kick start the bacteria in the substrate. Ecocomplete is supposed to contain some anyway but 'real' stuff will be better.
...on the shopping list is the following
- twin T5 ballast and tubes
- additional external filter
- 5 bags of ecocomplete
- bag of play sand (split substrate)
- some kind of PVC strip (like a giant ruler??) to divide the substrate
- one mega piece of wood
- multiple socket extension lead with...
...ordered. i've bought a new reg off ebay quite a fancy one with solenoid and bubble counter for £60 need to pull my finger out and order ecocomplete after all my dithering, then get more lighting, background, tonnes of bogwood etc... oh dear what have i done this is gonna drain the bank...
...divide the substrate in two. all i need to find is some kind of flexable water safe plastic i can use to divide and seperate the sand / ecocomplete. i need like a massive ruler that can sand on it's side and be bent in a big curve. any thoughts?
so the front will be sand, carpet of something...
...it's just not quite the picture i have in my head of the new layout.
Looking on the web there's not a lot in it in price between AS and EcoComplete and i really cant find any other options that fit the bill so i am leaning towards EC at present. Thanks for clarifying those points from your...
...just my 2 pence worth on the Aquasoil question...
If you’re looking to carpet the tank with HC etc then is the colour (dark grey AS vs ecocomplete) really tthat much of a big deal? Once carpeted the Cardinals will be against a green background anyway and respond accordingly. I’m just...
...fellas. Some great feedback there. A reflection of how far the UK aquascaping hobby has progressed in the last few years.
Peter - It's Ecocomplete. A real nice substratre to work with actually. It was already moist so we planted with no water in the tank, using a spray mister to stop the...
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