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Filter Porn - ADA Superjet

I am so glad that I found this thread, I recently watched the Jurijs video and that got me thinking about the ADA Superjet 1200. I will be adding another tank early next year, UNS 120u, 47.24" x 23.62 x 23.62, 114 gallons; it will be another planted Discus tank. I was originally thinking of filtering it with a Fluval FX4 and 407, more to reach have maximum filtering capacity rather than flow. The ADA 1200 is sure an interesting filter but I don't see any real details on it, it looks like ADA rates it up to 120p but not 120u. I am not sure that the 1200 would be appropriate for the 12u, maybe with another filter? And, I am worried that the 2400 would provide too much flow in a Discus tank. Thoughts? Media volume is the highest priority for me.
 
I can tell you the 1200 puts out a lot of flow.
Here is a video of the flow.



I was getting some hair algae so added more phosguard to the filter during monthly cleaning of the Lilly pipes.
 
I’ve paid up for the 45cm ADA super jet, and I’ve got a question on the filter media. As Im not too keen on running carbon in the filter, ADA recommends filling with Bio Rio but this is just pummice stones? is there really much difference between Bio Rio and standard pumice pebbles?
 
castle said:
I’ve paid up for the 45cm ADA super jet, and I’ve got a question on the filter media. As Im not too keen on running carbon in the filter, ADA recommends filling with Bio Rio but this is just pummice stones? is there really much difference between Bio Rio and standard pumice pebbles?
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I have two bags, and to my knowledge it is just natural pummice stone, yes. And it's what's written on the box. I'm sure if there was something else they would tell us.
Incidentally it is made of very small grains and I suspect it strongly reduces flow.
Also, the grains may escape the net and damage the pump: I suggest adding a sponge at the end of the Superjet filter.

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Hi,
I was wondering how much noisier is the ada superjet 600 in comparison with the eheim pro 4 séries and/or the Oase biomaster 600 for example?

Thanks a lot
 
CooKieS said:
Hi,
I was wondering how much noisier is the ada superjet 600 in comparison with the eheim pro 4 séries and/or the Oase biomaster 600 for example?

Thanks a lot
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It's not exactly what you're looking for, but I have switched from the biomasters and Eheim pros to the Chihiros superjet, which is far more silent. What I don't know is if the Chihiros clone uses the same pump as ADA.
 
Skim read this so that’s the reason if I missed the answer but are the Ada throughput numbers “real” numbers, ie with tubing, lily, filter media or are they “potential” throughput ie with no head no filter media etc? They always seem to put out more water than the listed numbers given.
 
Tom Delattre said:
It's not exactly what you're looking for, but I have switched from the biomasters and Eheim pros to the Chihiros superjet, which is far more silent. What I don't know is if the Chihiros clone uses the same pump as ADA.
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That I do know the answer to, no it doesn’t.
 
CooKieS said:
Hi,
I was wondering how much noisier is the ada superjet 600 in comparison with the eheim pro 4 séries and/or the Oase biomaster 600 for example?

Thanks a lot
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It won’t matter. The sheer weight of the thing will cripple your back when you pick it up and you’ll be in the hospital 😂 Last thing you’ll hear is the sirens from the ambulance.

@Siege ‘s was quiet. As in, head in the cabinet to hear it. Flow rate is low by comparison to its competitors. However, it is designed to match ADA’s lean water column fertilisation and rich substrate method to overcome distribution limitations.
 
I've just seen an Instagram story from the guys at Aquarium Design Group. They compared the flow of a Oase biomaster and a superjet in the same tank. The Oase biomaster had just been cleaned, not the superjet. And clearly the flow of the superjet was way higher. His conclusion was that the superjet is (more) impervious to clogging.

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I have all the superjets and their flow is always higher than their competitors.
The plants sway all the way across my 120p using the 1200es. ADA uses iwaki pumps which are high end water pumps.
Just the pump on a 1200 es costs more that whole filters of other brands.
 
CooKieS said:
Hi,
I was wondering how much noisier is the ada superjet 600 in comparison with the eheim pro 4 séries and/or the Oase biomaster 600 for example?

Thanks a lot
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Hi @CooKieS.

Ignoring the benefits of looks, built in heater, prefilter etc. Just going by sound -

- Eheim Pro 4 600 - Absolutely silent

-Oase Biomaster 600 - A very little more but nothing to talk about. Doesn’t clear air as quick as Eheim but shouldn’t be an issue when maintained well.

-ADA SuperJet 600 - defo the noisier of the 3. A humming noise. Not annoying but will seem loud if you are used to the other 2.

- Eheim pro5 - very noisy. Like a constant fan noise. I think this can be solved with the software update but yet to work out how to do this.

All subjective but I hope that helps

S.
 
What about flow rate @Siege ? Viewing your tanks, have always thought the Eheims were more capable at thorough flow around the tank than the superjet, but others have the opposite experience 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Hi Geoff,

I found the super Jet to have a lower flow rate than the Eheim Pro 4 600 and the BioMaster 600. Saying that with the downward facing glassware that comes with it this wasn’t an issue and the tank looked healthier than ever. Flow was never an issue and the pearling was amazing with the lower flow.

Gassing off of CO2 was greatly reduced. So much so that I had to turn the CO2 down a fair bit.

I only used the Super Jet 600 with the supplied anthracite carbon. I’m unsure if this will change with the usual BioRio.

If choosing which super Jet for say a 90-P, I’d go with the larger 1200 filter. 1 up from what ADA recommend. BUT, that’s a personal opinion, I’m not coming from a full on ADA background. Their system works so who am I to argue!
 
Hi all,

Not sure if this thread is still live but I’m lost in what filter to purchase for my Ada 60h (~32 gallon - 60x45x45cm)! One thing for sure: it needs to be a Super jet! I will go for a Dutch/Jungle style scape so it will be heavily planted. After reading all the posts (hard to find any experience stories on these filters) I’m not sure if the 600 is good enough for a 60h tank.. and after seeing the flow of the 1200 I guess that’s too much flow.. I’ve heard that there is also a super jet es-900 available? Or is there also a way to reduce the flow of the 1200 so it suits my tank?

All replies are highly appreciated!
 
ES 600 was a bit too much flow for me on an ADA 60H - though mine is 60x30x45

Depends on what you’re going for; I also used the spin return and yeah, cool.
 
Ed Wiser said:
You might split the output of the 1200 es in two. With two outputs that will cut the flow.
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ADA Super Jet Filter ES-900 with Standard Lily Pipes

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If you need more than 600 but less than 1200.
 
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